A Real Boycott....

Discussion in 'Boycott' started by patHAOomg, Nov 2, 2008.

  1. patHAOomg

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    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912

    This movement is about awareness, in avocation of a fluid evolutionary progress, both personal, social, technological and spiritual. It recognizes that the human species is on a natural path for unification, derived from a communal acknowledgment of fundamental and near empirical understandings of how nature works and how we as humans fit into/are a part of this universal unfolding we call life. While this path does exist, it is unfortunately hindered and not recognized by the great majority of humans, who continue to perpetuate outdated and hence degenerative modes of conduct and association. It is this intellectual irrelevancy which the Zeitgeist Movement hopes to overcome through education and social action.

    The Zeitgeist Movement is not a political movement. It does not recognize nations, governments, races, religions, creeds or class. Our understandings conclude that these are false, outdated distinctions which are far from positive factors for true collective human growth and potential. Their basis is in power division and stratification, not unity and equality, which is our goal. While it is important to understand that everything in life is a natural progression, we must also acknowledge the reality that the human species has the ability to drastically slow and paralyze progress, through social structures which are out of date, dogmatic, and hence out of line with nature itself. The world you see today, full of war, corruption, elitism, pollution, poverty, epidemic disease, human rights abuses, inequality and crime is the result of this paralysis.

    The goal is to revise our world society in accord with present day knowledge on all levels, not only creating awareness of social and technological possibilities many have been conditioned to think impossible or against "human nature", but also to provide a means to overcome those elements in society which perpetuate these outdated systems. An important association, upon which many of the ideas of this movement are derived come from an organization called " The Venus Project" directed by social engineer and industrial designer, Jacque Fresco. He has worked nearly his entire life to create the tools needed to assist a design of the world which could eventually eradicate war, poverty, crime, social stratification and corruption. His notions are not radical or complex. They do not impose a subjective interpretation in their formation. In this model, society is created as a mirror of nature, with the variables predefined, inherently.


    The movement itself is not a centralized construct.


    We are not here to lead, but to organize and educate.

    Boycott Citibank, Bank of America, JP Morgan...

    Boycott Major TV News feeds (FoxNews, MSNBC, etc.). Get your news from the internet.

    Boycott Gasoline....

    Boycott the Military....

    Boycott this entire monetary society that we live in that is 100% based on greed, human suffering, economic slavery, scarcity, and complete corruption.

    Protect the internet....
     
  2. MikeE

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    How does one "Boycott the military"?
    Refuse to enlist?
    Refuse to pay taxes?
    Does that apply to the Coast Guard as well as the other branches?

    What specific actions does the Zeitgeist movement regard as boycotting the military?
     
  3. patHAOomg

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    There is no need for violence, war, or human suffering anymore. It is obsolete. There is no longer a need to support the greed, tyranny, hypocrisy, and corruption that warfare/military truly represent. Do not enlist. If you are already enlisted, do not fight. It's that simple. If you don't fight, war can't continue, then in turn, profit for the bankers can't be made off a war that isn't being fought. Yes, it applies to all branches of the military. There is just no need for a primitive force such as military/violence in an enlightened world. It is absolutely pointless.

    You should already refuse to pay taxes. That's already a given. The US Income Tax is a violation of the United States Constitution and it can be proved. Numerous people have won their cases by proving the validity of the US Income Tax being a complete violation the US Constitution. Look it up for yourself.

    :)
     
  4. MikeE

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    Don't pay taxes??

    Should I also not drive on the roads those taxes pay for?

    Should I use means other than the (tax funded) courts to seek justice? If so, what means would be appropriate to collect damages when I get rear-ended? If my roomate's drunken friend urinates on my computer, who decides whether the friend or my roommate is buying me another computer?

    What steps should I take if I am robbed?

    How can I ethically use from those things payed for by taxes, if I don't pay mine?

    I find it interesting that someone who recognizes no nations makes an appeal to the illegality of the income tax, based on the founding document (Constitution) of a nation.
     
  5. mai

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    the problem is that people do recognise that. in an ideal world we will all get together fine and love each other regardless of our colour, religion etc. but that is not going to happen soon.
    for millions of years human beings grew up in tribes that depended on a feeling of belonging for survival , this includes not only the feeling of "us" but also of "them". in today's world this might not be desired but it cannot be ignored. multi ethnic places with Utopian governments learned it the hard way ,once the the dictatorship fell hatred and violence broke, Iraq, Yugoslavia, West Africa, former Soviet Union etc . the only place that this didn't happen is in western democracies (though very few western democracies are full multi ethnic ,usually theres a liberal european majority in charge)

    human beings are not ants. they are capable of cooperation , but they need a legal system to assures them that those who do not cooperate are punished . This legal system has to be flexible and monitored by society. This is what Western democracies are trying to achieve .

    Have you ever been to a communist country , an ex communist, an Israeli kibbutz or any other kind of Utopian system? The striking thing about these places is just how little cooperation there is between people. It's much more of a dog eats dog in those Utopian places (though of course they are preferable to lawless places like Somalia or Afghanistan)

    Again , the ideas you posted are very positive but they seem to be based on an idealistic (and ultimately false) understanding of human nature
     

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