What RC would be the most like acid or shrooms? I know ACO-DMT is metabolized as psilocin so it would be almost identical to shrooms. I've heard more digital though. Which one would be the most like acid? As in nice body and mind high, morphing/swirling visuals, and long duration. I know DMT is supposedly one of the strongest out there so don't say that. We all know about DMT. eace: & Love.
Shulgin describes several 4-substituted tryptamines as shroom-like and 2C-E is often compared to LSD. But they are in no way legal replacements, they all have their different characteristics.
2c-e from all the trip reports i have heard is really nothing like lsd except for some visual qualities. in the mind though ppl tend to say its far more of an introspective chemical. 2c-i is less harsh on the mind and ppl say its more comparable to lsd. i use lsd extensively and will be able to try 2c-e later on this month so i will post a trip report comparing the two.
Yeah I know. Every substance is unique. Plus these aren't technically "legal". There just won't be any cid around here until christmas. All of my chemists have gotten busted except one and from what I hear his acid is overpriced and bunk. I'm just trying to get a decent hallucinogen to hold me over.
You really can't go wrong with 2c-e. It's pretty specular in it's own way... I know some people who even prefer it over LSD. 2c-t-7 is another winner, but it can be a bit rougher on the body for some people, so I usually suggest people start with 2c-e. Actually, just about any 2c is a winner, if you ask me , lol... But 2c-e is the closest in effects and duration to LSD out of the 2c bunch. Most of the 4-substituted tryptamines are pretty cool too, but they vary in the effects so you'd have to do some research into each one to see which one suits your personal taste more. You could also consider amt or 5-meo-mipt. Both of which are pretty awesome in there own way... but not so much like lsd or shrooms, they're more recreational/fun.
SWIM opinion: 2c-e is definately the closest. However, have found that effects can differ, even with 2-3 month breaks. Similar (20mg) doses can produce ++ one time and ++++ breakthrough the next given a similar fasting ritual each and every time. Has anyone else experienced differing reactions as described? Have read plenty regarding tolerance/reverse tolerance/cross tolerance. With 2-3 month breaks one would think these would be non-issues. For what it's worth... SWIM insists to skip M1 redosing and replace with 15mg 2c-e at T+4:00. The (assumed) potentiating effects for SWIM almost always reach ++++, reproduced 3 consecutive times. Thoughts?
Yes. I've noticed this, and I've also heard others confirm this as well. Not exactly sure why it happens. Interesting. I'll have to give that a try. Does this m1 add any additional speediness to the 2c-e? Normally m1 isn't too speedy unless redosed, or if too much is taken, so I would assume it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
No noticeable additional increase in HR or BP - but honestly (warning)... was so immersed that.. may have not properly measured. Benzo's were welcomed at 2c-e ingestion T+8:00 as no comedown was realized or even apparent on the horizon. Clarification: M1 = Methylone. Do not want to assume anyone reading would have that realization. Good medicine.
After I get some money I'll order 250 mg of 2-CE and 250 mg of 2-C-T-7. Then I'll report back. I might even throw in some 2-CI just because it's the same price.