Consider voting for Ralph Nader tomorrow

Discussion in 'Politics' started by WanderingSoul, Nov 3, 2008.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Yeah but they seem to want to protect something. They are so afraid of anything different.
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    What will they do when your Indians build casinos and prosper?
     
  3. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    tehama, there is a road/are roads in the western part of that county i've always wanted to drive

    along the bottom of the coast range [looks interesting on the topo maps]

    one of my few blank spots on my 'internal' california map

    but my future looks like western north dakota, a flat dry impoverished land spotted with near-ghost towns

    [i have my eye on one called marmarth]
     
  4. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    there are very few local indians, two i know, one works as a hotel maid, the other is a patient at the local mental health center

    most stay on the reservation, as jobs are scarce

    max, the maid [there must be a better word for the job, but] told me that when he first went to the job center they told him that they only found jobs for 'locals'

    fortunately the hotel owner was an arrowhead hunter and max made friends with him and got a job

    so there will be no local indian casino

    this town is however chock-full of weird little local casinos, maybe a dozen?, there is hardly a restaurant that is not actually a bar/casino with a deep-fryer in back

    small wonder that i never eat out...
     
  5. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    btw

    if there were indian casinos

    i would think that one thing that would change is that the crappy odds on the slots would improve

    i am not a gambler but once studied it [i try to know a little about a lot of things]

    the machines here, you'd have more fun burning your money

    [and better odds of winning]
     
  6. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    It's hot and dry here too, but not flat. I live in the valley, but we are surrounded by mountains and foothills. And the Sacramento river and multiple creeks run through it. I love to drive the old roads, the ones through the old farm/cattle lands. You see the old homesteads crumbling, because foreign syndicates and conservancies have bought them out for hunting retreats and beef production and export.

    We have a couple local recent Indian casinos here. And they have paid back to the local communities much more than the monied syndicates and conservancies have. They've openned free/local health clinics, they offer help to the low income individuals, no matter what their ethnic backgrounds.

    It's pretty here in a hot dry prehistoric way. I was a Navy brat I missed the ocean for the first four years we lived here, but I now feel this is home. I love the oaks, the lava rock, the pikas and the heat now.

    Has a prehistoric look. We live in a land overlooked by an active volcano.
     
  7. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    you should go fill out a provisional ballot at least.

    At least make the machine go to the trouble of checking you out.

    I urge you to get out and vote, for the sake of the entire world.

    (From one racist bigot to another.)

    You realize the republican on the ticket is no friend of indians.
     
  8. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Machines don't pay like in Reno that's true, but I guess they make their money. I can't afford to go to them. But lot's of people do and they are making money. And they do offer services in our county that our county can't pay for today since deregulation and Reagan and the republicans.

    My Mexican friends like to go and play bingo, they seem to come home with their rent money.

    Bingo makes my head ache if I play more than two cards. Only did it once.
     
  9. Flagrant Vagrant

    Flagrant Vagrant Guest

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    ...Not really, but that's pretty much the reality of the situation. This nation was scared of rule by a person like him in the past elections, and some even had the gall to blame him for "screwing up" previous elections. That's how democracy is supposed to work. problem is, people are relatively simple-minded and creatures of habit, so we often get so comfortable with things or situations that we cling to them for dear life even when we know deep down that they make no sense.
     
  10. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    It's not Nader's fault the dems did not make their case well enough in years past.

    That does not mean I voted for him. He has no chance of winning, and I don't feel it's the right choice if you want to influence the debate this year.
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I've said already I voted Nader twice. Nader didn't lose Gore the election Gore did if he had won Tennessee his own home state he could have won.

    What Nader hasn't done this time is become part of the conversation, but he's asking for donations. Too late, too little.
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I think those pushing him this time are McCain/Palin supporters hoping he'll buy their way into the election. Don't think it's going to work this time. Republican's disenchanted with McCain/Palin should be pushing Barr.
     
  13. zihger

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    I voted for Nater he says he would give amnesty to all non-violent drug offenders and stop making wars.

    He is kind of geeky looking though I would rather have a tougher looking pres for talking to nth Korea and people who don’t like us.
     
  14. WoodsCall

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    Seriously? I'd rather have a tougher minded president for such matters. I could only hope that the ability to be a diplomat goes past a leader's exterior appearance.



    Nader resembles a geek no more than Bush.
     
  15. zihger

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    Yes, it does, it goes way beyond a "leader's" exterior appearance to the people who really run the government and teams advisers that tell the puppet what to say and do.
     
  16. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    I just happily 'wasted' my vote on Nader.

    Truman and Eisenhower were pretty damn geeky.
     
  17. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    i know i know

    my forum name in english means "bug man"

    i feel like an insect most of the time

    and am careful not to step on them always

    the results last night made me weep with joy for many friends i have, living and dead, for whom this will REALLY matter

    but for me it was like watching the moonwalk, something happening to human beings, a race i do not understand

    i wish all of you well

    [watch out for bugs]
     
  18. ishikabe

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    Why waste the gas to the voting booth?
     
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