Obama family dog/puppy...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gardener, Nov 7, 2008.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I work with rescues I am an animal lover. They should resue not buy. I just need to say this. It would probably be the first time a rescued dog was the first dog. All of my pet's have been rescues. I've never been rich enough to go after a dog with papers, or when I had money I just found the right dog for me, that just happenned to need rescuing.

    And for those of you that say this isn't political...it's very political. Just ask the people that toiled to rescue pets that had been given up on during Katrina.

    And don't think they can't find a pedigreed pup or what some folks like to call designer breed pups at a rescue or shelter. They are there, because some people see them as nothing but a commodity like the working citizens of this country are seen by wall street and multinational corporations. They are discarded when they are seen as inconvenient.

    I am hoping they rescue. And why not two, maybe one could be a cat?
     
  2. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    Maybe they could buy a pit bull and put lipstick on it?

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  3. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I think McCain already did that and we saw how well she bonded with her new handler.
     
  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    The Obama's I think are looking to add a new family member. I understand one of the girls has asthma, but they should be aware many breeds not just these new screwy mutts called designer dogs are non-shedders. I think they should spend some time browsing petfinder.org.

    I think the Obama's are smart enough to realize that a cross between a poodle and labrador is just that a cross, a mutt, not a designer dog. And no one should be paying exhorbitant prices for these puppy mill attrocities when perfectly fine dogs needing homes can be found at shelters and rescues.
     
  5. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    he was already talking about a mutt.

    And a doodle from a good breeder is not the same as supporting puppy mills. The puppy mill dogs are pretty low quality as far breed traits.

    I have a well bred Jack Russel, and a lab/pit mix my wife got from some kids who were going to leave him in a dog park in february, with snow on the ground. At a year an a half, he had absolutely no socialization of any kind with humans or dogs. His teeth appear filed. I'm guessing he was meant as bait for a fighting ring.

    After putting him through doggie boot camp that I developed (no money for trainers), he is now a model pooch and a consummate frisbee dog. We are thinking of doing some competition frisbee next season. He's that good. And NOBODY comes over without falling in love.
     
  6. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Professional/good breeders don't cross breed.
     
  7. illumincoalitional

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    I hope the damn dog gets run over by a car in front of the children. Maybe it'll make the funny papers by Tuesday.
     
  8. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    gardner, that is nuts. The doodle was developed as a working dog. The poodle/sheep dog mix is doing very well in australia.

    How do you think the Jack Russel was developed? Parson Russel bred preƫxisting breeds together to make a new breed.

    With doodles, the problem is that it only lasts a generation.

    Hybrids are as good as a dog gets, in my opinion. I've owned purebreds from reputable breeders my whole life, and I can say without hesitation that the best dog i've owned is my lab/pit mix.
     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I agree some crossbreeds make excellent pets. But they are not true breeds until decades after their first crossings and recognition by legitimate registeration boards. This current fad of buying some backyard bred cross and paying a small fortune for it only serves to continue the misguided breeding by individuals only interested in turning a buck.

    The Jack Russell was first bred in 1873, it wasn't until 1990 that it was officially recognized by the Kennel Club of Great Britain and the FCI.


    I take care of lurcher for a friend. Lurchers are crosses between sight hounds and any number of other working breeds. They are a type of dog, and will never be considered a breed. Because there is no standard from them. Their appearance varies wildly. She adopted her from the local shelter.

    As to the hypoo allergenic aspect of any dog, if you are acutely allergic to dogs you'll be allergic to poodles, and Mexican hairless, all dogs.
     
  10. hannahannahannah

    hannahannahannah What's a Palindrome?

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    You could write to him and suggest it, Gardner. Maybe you'll be like that kid that got on the news for suggesting Sarah to the McCain camp. :)
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    All the major shelter and rescue groups have already contacted his organization. I am just hoping instead of shopping pet stores they check out petfinder first. They'll see that there are many pedigree and mixed breeds needing homes, and just because they are being rehomed doesn't make them inferior to a pet store or breeder dog.
     
  12. real_large

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    Maybe overscrutinizing this, but the choice has symbolic weight. Choose a pure-bred and you contradict, even in a slight way, your populist message.

    Pure-breds are elite. They're expensive. They're "snobby." (Perception, not my personal opinion).

    Obama better go to a shelter, and get his daughter an inhaler.
     
  13. mariecstasy

    mariecstasy Enchanted

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    According to his news conference yesterday, they are looking into shelters.

    I found the fact that their shopping for a dog is one of the most 'hit' parts of their website. Do people really care about each aspect of their lives that much?
     
  14. real_large

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    We are an easily-distracted people. We like ticky-tacky.;)
     
  15. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    There's a big difference between getting a doodle from a reputable breeder and encouraging backyard breeding.

    Further, I think our current breeding status quo encourages a shrinking of the gene pool that could prove disastrous. We need hybrids, and the tyranny of the kennel club is bullshit. How many people actually show their dogs? Jesus, I've seen these english labs, prizewinners mind you, that I would never use as an actual retriever.

    Kennel clubs can bite me.
     
  16. hannahannahannah

    hannahannahannah What's a Palindrome?

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    *lol*

    You're 28 and you know to reference the term "ticky-tacky"? I'm highly impressed.
     
  17. maryjohn

    maryjohn Senior Member

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    ticky-tacky is back!

    I've heard many cultural references lately.
     
  18. real_large

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    Little boxes on the hillside
    Little boxes made of ticky-tacky
    Little boxes, little boxes, little boxes
    All the same


    Sing it now!
     
  19. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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  20. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    President Elect Obama already has a pet in the lapdog Media.
     
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