Ok so I've got a question for everybody here... because I'm sure most of us have run into this problem at some point or another. Has anybody ever come up with a technique to moderate themselves when they have direct access to opiates of their choice... ANYTHING BESIDES STRONG WILL POWER (i'm not interested in any lectures about how it's all in your head and whether or not your a strong person). I'm talking about actual systems or devices... For example here's a few I've thought of... but somehow I still don't think they'd work for me... -Having a safe like device that would only dispense pills in certain time increments...and was locked without a combo so you couldnt get in. -burying my pills in a really deep hole that would take lots of time and energy to dig up... which would make sure I didn't impulsively use just because my favorite tv show was coming on. -similar to the one above, I would hide my pills in a disclosed location several hours away...which would make it much more work for me to get to. Or... store them at a place that you don't really enjoy going to much... but you know it's good for you. For example keep your pills in your locker at the gym... that way if you wanted to use, you'd already be at the gym... so why not work out while your there. -I've actually tried this one before... giving my pills to someone that knows that I use... but have trouble moderating myself. And therefore I can only use with that person... or when they designate... and if you try and fiend... they'll see your junkie behavior and give you even less. So anyways that's just for starters... I wanna see what you guys can come up with (or already have come up with). PS. one of the main reasons this thought was on my mind is because I'm pretty sure I'm gettin some 80's in a couple days... and am trying to find a way that I don't rail through them as quick as I always do...
Weird you mention this.. I've always dreamt, and wanted to invent a safe with different compartments that you set a date and time on and the compartments only open when the date/time has arrived. there is no other way to get in, and you can't reset the date once you've set it. How many of us would buy this fuckin thing for $100.00??? I know I would. To get back to your question, I have family that lives about 1 1/2 hours away. And whenever I get stuff there, I always try to leave some behind, about a fourth of what I got. That way when I'm done.. there is still some left if I REALLY need it. But it's a drive and a visit. I've tried hiding goodies from myself.. placing them in random spots all over my place quickly then trying to forget.... ... ... never works. Tried giving them to a friend once.. he ate em all. But I've never found a fool proof method. If you do.. update me, please, I'd love to know. I've spent many a frustrating hours on this "?"
Ha! I've also thought of the same thing, myself. Since I get my month worth of oxy's, which is usually 15 of the 20mg's. I've tried the different location thing and it helped, but I still had easy enough access to it. I was able to save up enough for my Halloween party this way. I've thought of the unpleasant or pain in the ass location to hide them. I live by some hills where I'd have to take a long hike, but I'm afraid the bottle will get carried away by some animal, they'll get wet, contaminated or someone else will find them and steal them. A timed safe would be perfect! I used to give my Fiorinal w/codeine script to my friend who lived about 20 minutes away and told him to allow me only 5 a week, and it worked out pretty well. He was trustworthy and never hassled me about feinding for them. I'd get my 5 for the week and they'd be gone in about 2 days! Sometimes, he'd let me have a couple more when I'd visit. Sadly, he overdosed on Soma last year, but at the time I had him dispense my script, he wasn't interested in pills at all. Tonight, I'm in a state of mania (I'm bipolar) and was going to do 1/2 an oxy since it's Friday. I did my half, then an hour or so later, I broke down and did the other half. Now, I know I'm going to want more when I get up to ward off the feelings of sleep deprivation since I'll be shorting myself on sleep... if I end up going to sleep at all tonight. As GnR said, "When you're high, you never ever want to come down." And "I used to do a little but a little wouldn't do it, so the little got more and more." (Mr. Brownstone) If moderation doesn't work, try to do everything you can to potentiate so you can get a better high with less, and if only there was a way to avoid tolerance. But sometimes, willpower is quite a virtue. After holding off for several days or a week, that first fix is amazing! Then it leads to an urge to just go on a binge which is a bad idea since the whole stash will go fast that way! Sorry I don't have any better suggestions, but just make your stash a real pain in the ass to get to. Or get so high on xanax or soma, hide them and you'll forget where they are, but you may never find them again! lol I like the trustworthy friend idea, too. Oh well, enjoy them while they last!
when i worry im gonna do to much, i just give my pills to my GF.. Then she allows me 1 or 2 pills a day, i can take more if i want, but it helps keep me in moderation with them.. The right state of mind helps too; in reality you dont need alot.. just enough to keep satisfied, and not go thru withdrawals. cuz its better to always have some, then run out and have nothing. the thing with opiates is: if u have them in your system, you wont go through withdrawal, so its better to moderate them, then to run out early, and end up goin thru WD's.. Just keep that in mind, and from there you just have to be smart about it.. you dont REALLY NEED 5 or 6 pills a day.... (unless u are in severe pain), just 1 during the day maybe, and 1 at night. ya know, do enough to get a good buzz, and then just wait a while, It will keep you from goin through withdrawals.. also it will lower or keep your tolerance at a lower level, so you dont need as much to get the desired effects.. ALSO! if u smoke weed, it can help keep your mind off doing opiates, and if you smoke a bowl before u do opiates then wait like 5-10 minutes, you wont need as much opiates to get to the desired high. its just a good idea to keep it in moderation, basically because it will keep your tolerance at a low or decent level, reduce your addiction and withdrawal recovery times
I like the idea of focusing on adding potentiators (thanks morphoxycode1). That might work for me. Getting creative and adding Codeine or whatever to enhance my stronger opiate high. I think I'll try that. I have a really hard time the first few days I score a batch of opiates. Just keep shooting one every few hours even though I don't need it and I can't even feel the shot. So much better to wait and have that awesome morning wake up shot.
i dont think codeine would really help out a stronger opiate.. codeine is so weak, compared to lets say oxy.. things like benzodiazapines are good potentiators, along with weed.. they will dobule your buzz.. and well alcohol.. but alcohol and opiates is a no no..
yea ive heard that, benzo's and opiates can be dangerous.. idk, usually every time i do oxy, about 10 minutes before, i take a 10mg valium, or 1-2mg of klonopin.. never had any probs, it fucks you up alot more though 10mg valium alone, just makes me tired basically, like a muscle relaxer, i just feel lazy, same with high dose of klonopin... and when i do oxy+valium, it takes the tiredness away and gives a more intense Oxy buzz.. not tired feeling but u get a better daze i think alcohol+opiates is more dangerous then benzo's.. i say that because i know 2 people that have died from oxy and alcohol.. one just recently died earlier this year, in the summer time.. very sad.. :< so yes, either way, always be careful with opiates and know your dose and your limit.
yea I'm gonna have to agree with Piink on this one... I would never condone taking Benzo's and Opiates together... Unless you absolutely know you're tolerance for both and even then titrate it correctly... cuz both are downers and thus both will depress your central nervous system... which I'm sure you can imagine can be very dangerous. Plus I'm one of those people that likes his oxy buzz pure un-altered by any other drug. Cuz even though certain potentiaters might make you more fucked up... it also changes the type of high you feel as well.
yea alot of people should be concerned.. it is dangerous, and almost everyone ive talked to has warned be about it. even those who do benzo's and opiates lol.. i guess i do it because i know limit and my tolerance very well.. i havent puked off opiates in a long time because of this.. but i really prefer some good nugget smoked right before some oxy.. takes less oxy to get the buzz you want, and sometimes ill smoke a bong, and not even do the oxy until way later, and i end up with having the oxy for longer :>
I couldn't agree more. It may be more intense of a feeling, but just not the same. And I enjoy it less. When I have opioids, unless it's a tiny amount, I do them purely by themselves. Sometimes I'll smoke some good green a little while after to kick it back in, but that's it.
you could put the pills up your ass without a bag, that way everytime you want to get high you have to taste shit. Probably wouldn't stop me still though I've done that one give it to a friend or family. Its the best idea you just have to make sure you give them to someone that aint gonna eat all your shit though
This is a really interesting topic. So far I like the idea of a safe with time locked compartments. Something like that would really work well for me. I think this idea has some potential to be marketed. It could even work for the elderly, for people who have memory problems, etc. *runs to the patent office*
