It feels like having a God's cell number

Discussion in 'DMT' started by Shapeshifter, Nov 7, 2008.

  1. Shapeshifter

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    I posted this tread long time ago, but in acid forum. So I thought maybe some of you guys who like DMT, but not visit acid forum might be interested:

    I just wanted to share with you guys Saturday night expirience that I had.
    It was the most amazing expirience in my life and I'll never forget it. The friend of mine brought long waited DMT and I decided long time ago that I want to try it together with strong dose on LSD. So, I dosed heavily 4 of us with acid and prepared everything for DMT so I can just hit it when I think that acid is in full blast. After 2 hours, acid was in a full blast and I light up the DMT. I took 3 strong puffs of it and immidiately it hit me so strong that I don't remember laying down or leaving the pipe. It started in a second with like stamping a stamp over the picture I see. It basicaly stemped the patherns in a shape of kids puzzles over my view and next second they were blasted all around showing me the picture of a Budha like creature witch disapeared in strong yelowish light witch was turning in to red light as it was passing next to me. Those puzzle like shapes of paterns were going over the picture still, like a mechanical parts of a machine. Then I receved the message telephatically: "I am the Creator, and this is how everything works!" I was watching the "machine" and trying to understand how he operates with it, but it was too simple to understand. After a while, the picture of the room with my friends came back covered in same patterns and next second paterns disapeared. I still had a strong feeling in me that I just met a Creator. Everybody was looking at me asking with their eyes how it was. I was blown away by the feeling and this time it was much easier than ever to say: "I don't know" It was not because I didn't remember, it was just too simple to be understood and said, and by the way, nobody will ever belive you untill they feel it. It is not that they won't belive words, but the feeling I can not explain and that is why they can not belive it. So, I just said: "It feels like having a God's cell number". I was very right (in my opinion) that you should blast DMT together with strong dose of LSD because I felt that LSD was not letting you to forget the feeling for a long time, making sure actually that you never forget it. After that all the others had a blast of DMT and we had a beautifull night, full of profound sentences and discoveries. Also when you are on a full blast of LSD, you already did let it go, so when you take DMT it takes you streight to the source, but when you need to take just DMT, people tend to be a bit nervous and stiff so they don't have time to let go and they stay like that for a whole trip as you don't have much time to convince yourself to let go. Anyway, you can say that I am crazy or that I was just tripping, but I know what I "saw".
    Love you all!
     
  2. RELAYER

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    It's funny how DMT apparently allows you to experience God directly without having to work your way into it, only to find yourself burned like with mushrooms. I definitley cant wait until I get my turn to smoke this chem.
     
  3. This is an excellent post, Shapeshifter, and I think that you bring up a very valid and important point, where there "was no letting go, because on the peak of LSD you have already let go". This makes complete sense to me compared to having even the most subtle underlying anxiety when you're about to light up the DMT, thus making it harder the let go. Genius. I shall remember this for my future DMT journey. God bless..
     
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    So your saying that even though DMT is almost instantaneous, there is still time to have deep rooted fear?
     
  5. Well maybe, maybe not. I've never tried DMT, but I have experienced ego loss/death with LSD, and being in that state is the ultimate of feelings, I can see how it would be a "prime time" to have a DMT experience in this state.

    Personally, now that I think about it some more, I would like to try it sober with the ego in tact, and in the LSD egoless state. I think both would have a lot to offer.

    I'd also be very curious if Shapeshifter tried DMT again without the LSD, and how, if so, his experience differed.
     
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    Yes I am very interested too if he feels like sharing. I have no qualms with a good ol fashion soul ripped from the chest experience, but I have been wodnering lately, is the onset so rapid and intesne that fear melts away within seconds or a minute? Or does it linger throughout the experience?
     
  7. YoMama

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    Years ago when I used to do LSD I always saw this place where everything was too simple for words. I felt like I was in God's living room. We didn't have cell phones back then
     
  8. Shapeshifter

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    Offcourse I feel like sharing ;)

    Ok, I'll try to explain what I learned from my expiriences.
    First time, I tried it without acid, and all I can say is that you go through stages.
    First thing that you expirience is reality blown away, with plenty of vibrations, like you are flying through turbulent air with speed of sound, plenty of body shakes followed with wowing sounds (similar to Om but not constant). Reality is visible, but sacred geometry is swirling out of the objects you see in reality, forming some kind of reality of extremly pure and bright lights, like a gigantic creature whitch keep changing shapes. This stage is usually caused because you need to learn how to inhale enough amount of DMT. When you go through this barrier and you really decide, now I am going to let go, you start sucking on it like mad, but then, you usually encounter some kind of elfish entities, who are guardians of space between dimensions. I clearly saw 2 of them, but the reality behind was intact, not changing (whole room looked normal, no changes, no vibrations, no sound) just 2 elfish creatures. I was holding my third puff of DMT and they asked me telephaticaly do I want to go with them. If I want, I must not exale the smoke from my lungs, and I must not start breathing, if I want to go with them I must die. For a second, I said yes, and the whole reality just got stamp over it, like kids puzzle shapes stamped over the picture of reality you see, and in the next 10th of a second ( I recon, all of this is happening so fast) the puzzle shapes break appart and completely new dimension is now visible (at this point you don't exist as a body, only like pure energy, and you are not aware where your body is), traveling soooo fast through some kind of light, following those 2 elfes. At that moment, for a split second, my daughter and my wife came to my mind, and I realized I can't die because of them. I let the smoke out of my lungs and breathed a fresh air back. In that same second, I appeared back in the room where the whole jorney started, seeing my wife and friends. For couple more minutes I had that wowing sound in my head and then it stopped. This was the closest ever feeling of dying I expirienced. At that point I obviously was not ready to give up everything.
    After this torture (it is not torture, but it is compared to my original post), I decided to try it on acid. Then the whole story from my original post happened. Through that expirience I learned that you need to let go if you want to reach the final destination, but it is not always easy. You decide with your thinking that you want to let go, but your soul also must agree. I tried it again without acid, and this time I did reach the final destination, but with a lot of struggling, I had to reasure myself that dying is just changing the dimension you exist in. I did inhale enough, but I was still travelling through that space between dimensions. This time I encountered many entities, traveling between dimensions, and those elfish creatures guiding them, but they didn't come to me, they knew I want to reach the final destination and they let me do it on my own, although I had a feeling that some higher entity is closely watching me. I went through physical pain of dying, where my chest was exploding, but my will was strong, I actualy came back from trip, not even remembering that part, to take another puff of DMT, and after that I reached my final destination. It was again "the machine" and the Creator, but this time we didn't "speak", we were peacefully watching how "the machine" is working perfectly. And after some time, wowing sound and I was back again in the room with friends. I was watching them after me suffering in between dimensions, but they didn't even know what is the reward for dying, so they were not ready to let go. They were amaized by colors and light, sacred geometry and so on.
    To make my conclusion, you need to have a very, very strong will to meet the Creator, or you can do it together with acid, take as much until you just colapse - and study "the machine". It is sooo simple, so simple that kills any complications that we think it is all about, all phylosophy, physics, and all other things that we know of. Time also does not exist there, everything is coexisting at the same time. Studying machine for just few seconds (witch is like the ethernity in Creators living room), actually reaching there, can teach you a lot how to live your own life. It really teaches you that the moment you give up everything, you gain everything. I can go forever like this, but that part I will leave to you to discover on your own. What is important is that you can save yourself from that dying feeling (I must admit that this part is not pleasant) witch terrifies plenty of people and because of that they don't want to try it again. You use acid to save yourself from that, and that gives you more time to study "the machine". It must be a solid dose of acid (at least 300 ugs, but 500 ugs and up is preferable), and then you already go through much more pleasant letting go, then you hit DMT and there you go, Creator and "the machine".
    I must add also, that this journey can vary, from person to person, as you go through fighting with your own demons and fears, but similarities are amazing, elfish creatures are encountered by many people, light tunnel, higher entities and so on. So if you don't get there from the first time, keep on trying, or try my recepy with acid (it is needles to say that in order to go this route, you need to be comfortable with high doses of acid, if you freak out on acid, forget it).
    Anyway, feel free to ask whatever you might be interested in and I will gladly answer if I can!

    Peace and Love!!!
     
  9. Shapeshifter

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    I forgot to add, that every single expirience was lasting between 7 and 15 min. Only difference is that with acid scenario your feelings and whole expirience stays with you for a whole acid trip, just without visuals, but you still "feel" the entities and you comune still with them even for days.
     
  10. StonerBill

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    how can we love eachother
    when our brothers do this?

    edit:referring to dead kittnz
     
  11. peaceful_son

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    I made a complaint about you Stillalive. Sorry man, but i feel that warrants a permantent ban for you. How dare anyone do that do any animal. Disgusting.
     
  12. StonerBill

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    is it wrong that I would not mind that happening to the people who did that?

    I dont think everything should be forgiven. Humans need consequences
     
  13. neodude1212

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    It certainly was grotesque. And whoever did it was sick, no doubt. But forgiveness under the most extreme circumstances is what makes it so righteous.
     
  14. Shapeshifter

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    What are you guys talking about, what dead kittenz?
    Am I looking at my thread, or you all missed the thread?

    I was asked to share my DMT expirience and I did, what dead kittenz now?
     
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    hey shapeshifter

    the member Stillalive posted pictures of cats being tortured. Good to see such swift action from the mods! :cheers2: cheers mods lol!

    peace
     
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    It's the people from Anon trying to be disturbing. This is like the 5th person now I've had to follow until banned. Please report these posts immediatley.
     
  17. Shapeshifter

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    So, did someone also expirience all those levels of breakthrough?
    I hope that maniac with dead kittens pictures didn't ruin the whole thread, it was very promising in the begining.
    Anybody would like to share their expirience until breakthrough?
     
  18. StonerBill

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    yo im totally a believer in your LSD+DMT prescription
     

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