whats up hipforums, i just needed to vent something and maybe give advice to some people out there about marijuana and socializing. I have been thinking for like the last 2 hours or so about my stoned life. I'm not quitting, but i think im gonna just start smoking by myself from now on...or with very close friends, and let me tell you why. stoners will take advantage and manipulate you. I dont know why im just now figuring this out. But yes, it is very true. stoners do lie, cheat, and steal. I know most of us on hipforums are cool people, but everybody isn't like us. In the real world, people will take advantage of you. ESPECIALLY if you get really stoned, thats a weakness to people out there in the real world, and those people will take advantage of that. I can't believe i have been this fucking naive and stupid. I've been thinking about the times where i could have possible been and probally been manipulated and taken advantage of. I know it may seem like all stoners are good people....but that is HARDLY the case. ANd its like im mad at my self, but i dunno, i dont really think its my fault. I dont have any brothers or sisters, so no one told me about that. Being an only child i've had to learn from my own mistakes. But this post just goes out particularly to young stoners..if you smoke with people...especially people you just met or whatever the case. Just be on the lookout, say what you feel, say what you mean. Don't let anyone get over on you while your stoned.....or while your sober. Cause its real out there,and i had to learn this the hard way. I've also cut back on my smoking, whereas i used to smoke everyday, now i mostly just smoke on the weekends. ANd i can see the manipulation from a third prespective. I've seen one of my stoner friends taken advantage of the other day. He got gyped out of a blunt. I started to say something, but the person was still right there, and i forgot about it. heh. ANd yes my friend is an everyday toker. IF you are an everyday toker and you smoke with other people in public. Just be on your toes, be aware of your surroundings. Pay attention to things, because i know i did not. The funny thing is, i didn't start realizing all this until i started drinking and becoming more social. I truely believe the saying states: "if you dont stand for something, you'll fall for anything" The key is to know who you are, and stand up for that. Many of you probally already know this, but this just smacked me in the face not too long ago.
nah im not paranoid....i cut back smoking weeks ago, and smoke less now. Thats when i've come to realize all this.
How do they take advantage of you? What do you mean gyped on the blunt? Don't let anyone take you for a ride, stand up for yourself, no one else will. If they're smoking your weed and not smokin you back then fuck them and move on or smoke by yourself. Most stoners are cool people but ofcourse there will be assholes, you seem to know now to look out. Be careful but enjoy life, it's a question of balance.
Hmm the loss of small things like blunts or ciggarettes is hardly major. Although i see what your saying i find it hard to belive that someone would hit and splif and all the conserns of those around them go out the window :S, never has for me personaly. Although i live in London so you can't really trust anyone, stoner or not unless you've known them for a long time. You should only worry if your somewhere private or if your out numbered tbh and keep your shit in your pockets 100%.
fuck that, thats just your group of friends. your entire image of "stoners" comes from your preconceived notions of them based solely upon you personal encounters with a select few assholes who happened to smoke marijuana. just because the statement "there are assholes that are stoners" is true doesnt make the statement "if u are a stoner, than u are an asshole" true. what im tryin to say is if u dont like "stoners" as a whole, fuck em. u dont need em. but at the same time just realize that just because uve had bad experiences with stoners it doesnt make all of us bad.
I have no idea what he means with taken advantage of and gyped on the blunt neither (maybe eloborate by an experience?), but he kind of said the same in his post as you did, plus that you have to be on your guard. I don't smoke with shady stoners in general though, just with friends.
i only smoke my weed with people i trust. if i'm going out somewhere, and there are going to be a lot of people, i leave everything at home just to avoid what you're talking about. i know there are alot of people out there that steal and manipulate. and if someone ever did steal from me or manipulate me in any way, and i knew about it. i would definitely call them out on it.. or else it would just happen again.
Yea, some of the stoners out here where i live at do cocaine too. But the people that i know that only smoke weed are kool as hell. One of my close stoner friends also "did cocaine". He's real kool and said he stopped fucking with it. ANd now it seems like he doens't fuck with it anymore, because i've heard of him doing some crazy shit, like i know he put a gun in somebodys face..he also told me that, said he was high as fuck off the powder. Cocaine makes people do some fucked up shit, he said so much shit runs through your head when you sniff coke..like crazy ass thought and shit. I wanted to try it once at one time, but now i think not. Oh and if you want an example of manipulation, like this one time. IM over at dudes house, and he says could i go pick up one of his boys from his house. And he's all like the guy would give me 10 or 15 bucks for gas....so we get over there...and they roll up a blunt and we smoke some good weed. Im high as hell....so i ask where is the gas money...then he changes it to 5 dollars is what he'll give me...so i'm like ok whatever, and stopped at the gas station...and i'm like where is the gas money...then he goes..."oh so i let hit my blunt, and still got to give you 5 dollars?" i'm like whatever, cause im high as hell feeling good...so i just pull off from the gas station and head towards where we are dropping him off at. Now he's high as hell too..turns out we were going the wrong way for a miniute. Then im like wtf dude, why didn't you tell me where i was going, he's all high and shit like my bad, its towards this way. ANyway im still driving after turning around to his destination and i'm like "yo i need that 5"...he's like man i dont got it...i pull the car over and i let him walk....cause we were almost there anyway. Fuckin sheisty man, he knew he didn't have the money. Its like damn, people be taking my kindness for a weakness. Thats why im about to stop being nice to these mofos out here. ALl of them, swear there thugs too lol.
Sorry if im rambling or whatever, i got the feeling no one understands wtf im talking about lol. Its kinda difficult for me to type out long thoughts on a computer.
I think my main point is now that im getting older, i realize how people are and how they think. Like its really enlightning when i think about it. Cause i used to be anti-social like a mofo.
yea it may seem fair...but still he said "i'll give you the money"..not "i'll smoke with you" cause i really needed some moeny at that time. he should have just kept it real with me from the jump.