He forgot Poland!

Was pointed to this post analysis recently and it cuts right to heart of the misinformed nature of your continued defense of outright lies and the liar who has spouted them consistently for four long years, Megara.

I suggest you review the truths it enumerates and on more than just the sloganeering PR surrounding the laughable coalition of signatory governments (whose own people by and large were vehemently opposed to this war along with millions of others around the globe from the very start).

http://mediamatters.org/items/200410010004

This also once again underscores that our domestic media is indeed anything but "liberal", it is a corporate serving mouthpiece for the right wing on one level and for whatever keeps the elite corporate engine of unrestrained greed going strongest (i.e. the status quo) more generally.

 

Those millions around the globe, which notably excludes Iraqis, who when polled consistently show that they supported the removal of Saddam Hussein. Not that they matter.

 

Please do show us these millions polled PB. The vast percentage in the nations bogusly listed as ardent supporters of our illegal invasion were overwhelmingly against it from the start, but then i suppose you were asleep when the millions turned out in country after country to protest.

http://www.fourthfreedom.org/Applications/cms.php?page_id=1
http://www.counterpunch.org/chomsky11142003.html

Given that your profile suggests you are some sort of investment banker or stock broker, Im hardly surprised now that you maintain this diehard support for a war based on repeatedly revealed lies and false "intelligence" which has long been shown to have originated with Ahmed Chalabi and the INC which has itself been lusting to get back into power since they lost their pampered positions with the overthrow of Faisal II in the 1950's.

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20040219-115614-3297r.htm
http://www.cjr.org/issues/2004/4/mccollam-list.asp
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040607fa_fact1

You of course care only about the massive profits to western corporate interests for whom this invasion and occupation has been a cash windfall at taxpayer expense. Amoral sod!

 

Journalists in Iraq have spoken to Iraqis and educated Iraqis are saying that if Saddam was allowed to run in the election, he would get the majority of the vote!

 

Actually Lick, you are well aware of these polls and they have been discussed in this forum on numerous occasions. At first I was inclined to play along with your little game and post links, but then I thought, why bother? Google it yourself. If you want to pretend you don't know, go ahead. Its a fact and you know it, I think we should just skip ahead to phase two where you claim all the polls are illegitimate or part of the vast PNAC conspiracy.

Secondly, I have never claimed the majority of the population in coalition countries supported the war, so this is a typical example of your desperate grasping for straw man arguments when faced with uncomfortable truths.

On the other hand, you claimed that "most" coalition governments have fallen since the war. I asked you to back this up and was met with silence. Is this another one of your throwaway posts which was based on nothing and which you simply abandon in favor of new, improved lies?

Secondly, I am hardly concerned that the millions who stayed home during the genocides in Rwanda and Bosnia and Iraqi Kurdistan took to the streets to protest America. Stop pretending that the opinion of eurocrat leftist conspiracy theorists like yourself is more important than the opinion of Iraqis.

Thank you for investigating my profile and making speculations as to my profession. Perhaps you can find work with the Deparment of Homeland Security when one day the eurocrat subcomittees decide to outsource the photocopy boy? And can you tell me, was the intelligence that Saddam was a monsterous dictator "false"? No? Then come up with a better argument that this insipid mush.

 

yea, he really did. saddam agrees.

 

Even if we accept that the Iraqis wanted Saddam gone, that does not mean that they wanted us to do it. Remember please that the previous Bush administration double-crossed them in 1991 when he asked Shiites to rise up against Saddam, then allowed Saddam to put down the rebellion.

Second, we removed Saddam without any plan for what to do after. Think about Maslow's hierarchy of needs--people will not be prepared for freedom or liberty (several steps up the pyramid) unless their basic needs for food, water, and shelter are met first. This is something that our plans for post-war Iraq did not address successfully.

Last, the removal of a leader of a sovereign nation is not up to us alone. The world is a bigger place than just America.