Hi, I asked this in another thread, not trying to be annoying, but I go to the doctors in a few days and wanted to make sure I get a response before I go. I'm new here, and have only taken Darvocet N for pain, but need something stronger and need something to mellow me out during the day, and also a bit of a high. So I asked this: Would suggest Oxy over Vicodin? Why? Will Vicodin will have similar effects on me, that the Darvocet does? Or do they differ allot? I'd really like more in depth coverage of how I'll feel ... with the Vicodin and with Oxy. How long does the mellow/high feeling last with each pill? What dosage should I ask for, and can you get it with little Tylenol, since I'd rather have the 'other' more than the Tylenol. And lastly, what's this I read somewhere, about removing the coating off the pill, to get a faster effect? Is that true for all of them, and is there any danger in doing that? Thanks!
They both feel similar but in my opinion oxy is stronger so you would require less of it to get high. i have never taken darvocet but from what i gather the effects are similar, though either oxy or hydrocodone will probably be stronger. I know they make small (5mg) oxy pills without tylonol but i doubt your doctor would give you those. most likely you will be prescribed generic percocet (5mg oxycodone/325?mg apap) or vicodin (5mg hydrocodone/500 mg apap). I know they make 10mg vikes with only 325 or 350 mg of tylonol but good luck getting those. Also as far as a coating is concerned, that only applies with oxycontin pills (pure time release oxycodone)
hey, Im assuming that you are on a program for chronic pain so your doctor knows you and your needs, you want to be careful with doctors because if they suspect you are using your drugs in anyway other then prescribed they wont think twice about pulling them, having that said: vicodin is hydrocodone and oxycontin and roxy contin both contain oxycodone which is stronger but as far as i know more addictive, I would recommend the oxy over the vicodin any day of the week because it uses the opiate as the only active ingrediant, no apap or asa, also the OC comes in 10, 20, 40, 80mg doses I do not know which the doctor is likely to prescribe but hopefully this information helps you decide what to ask for. onto the removal of the pills coating, there is a pretty common myth that by removing the colored coating of any oxycontin (time release oxycodone) pill it then becomes instant release like the roxis this is false as the coating is just used to identify them and the time release is a matrix built right into the pills, so to defeat it (and those in most other extended release pills) you grind it into as fine a powder as possible and then eat snort plug or whatever u choose with the pill, the major danger of this is that you are releasing all the drug into your system at once instead of small amounts at a time so you have to be careful with doses I know that there is enough info around here on doses, and methods of consumption that you should be able to figure the rest out on your own, welcome to the hip forums and happy postings
Both hydro and oxy will be much better than darvocet. I would take the oxy. But its preference. For me, and alot of others i beleive, oxy is much stronger high, but i sometimes i think hydro actually feels better, it just isnt as intense. Hydro plus weed feels really nice, but id still probably rather take oxy.
Oxycodone alone doesn't have any Tylenol in it. The darvocet does and so does the vicodin. and I believe they both contain Hydrocodone which is very similiar to oxy they also have Percocets which contain oxycodone and aspirin. They do have little immediate release 5s is what I would shoot for but the doctor will most likely either give you hydrocodone or percocet since they are less likely to be abused cause of the aspirin in it. Also All those above are in the opiate pain killer family and will have similiar effects just some are stronger than others. When you talk to the doctor don't give him any impression that you are wanting the pain meds to mellow you out. Make sure he only thinks you want them for the pain and don't act like you know to much about the pain meds cause then he might be suspicious. Also valium would be really great for just mellowing you out but might make you drowsy if the xanax does. Just try taking very low doses first. Also be careful these types of medication have a lot of potential of addiction and can cause withdrawls if taken to frequently for periods of time. You can search all the drugs on wikipedia.com for further detailed information. Good luck and I hope everything starts going better for you. Happy Holidays. PS. I posted this response on your other topic in Pharmaceuticals Also Vicodin and Hydrocodone are a schedule 3 drug in the United States when Percocet and Oxycodone are a schedule 2 so your doctor will probably more likely lean towards the hydro or vicodin at first but then again it all depends on your doctor
It appears that the group consensus is that oxycontin is a better choice than vicodin. I agree with this (unless you'd like to avoid addiction, of course). :hat:
Oxycodone > Hydrocodone (Vicodin) It has been noted that Oxycodone is about 1 and a half times stronger then Hydrocodone. With that information, it's easy to make a choice, haha.
To Legend: darvocet does not contain hydrocodone. it contains tylenol and propoxyphene, a ridiculously weak opiate that for most people does not create any kind of high at all. to the OP: if you are on a chronic pain regimen and have been taking darvocet, do NOT expect to get oxycontin anytime soon. you might be able to get your doctor to agree to prescribe you vicodin or some other hydrocodone based medication that is combined with tylenol, or you might even be able to get an oxycodone based medication like percocet which is oxycodone combined with tylenol, but oxycontin is way too far fetched. oxycontin is pure oxycodone in time release form so that it releases steadily over an 8-12 hour period. if you have been on darvocet and your goal is to get something that, as you said, is "stronger" and "mellows you out during the day", and "also a bit of a high" then you would be better off asking your doc to recommend you something, saying that the darvocet no longer works. most likely he will recommend vicodin. take that for a couple weeks or so, then tell your doc it is making you feel sort of strange and isn't working that well - and is there anything else he can suggest that is similar that would help you? he will then most likely suggest percocet. then you will have the best out of all the "combination" opiates, as I call them. as some others have expressed, don't be stupid. if you aren't careful your doc will know you want to abuse your meds and he will pull them immediately. play dumb, act like you don't know much about these pills, that always works best for me. -V
they put the apap aka tylenol in vicodin with the hydro because they are supposed to have some sort of reaction and make it stronger....i read that somewhere so dont take it as full truth please correct/confirm if anyone knows about this im interested to see if its true or not
nickers- this is not true. at least not in the sense that Tylenol will in ANY way increase your high. it can assist in pain relief because it is, as everyone knows, the most commonly used over the counter pain reliever in north America and western Europe. whereas the opiate (hydrocodone in regards to vicodin) affects the opiate receptors in the brain to help decrease your brain's AWARENESS of the pain, the Tylenol affects the way your nerves PROCESS the pain signals, and that is the "reaction" that you have heard of. It does not in any way enhance or increase the high that you feel from the opiate component of the drug. Sorry man, that rumor is just a misunderstanding of the real truth. pass it on -V
I believe they do this because when Hydrocodone is combined with another substance like APAP, it can still be dispensed as a schedule III drug.
