actually, I've been told that Zionist are extremist by Israelis. never by anyone but Israelis, in fact.
No, that is a very wide statement. Labor Zionists, General Zionist, Reform Zionists, etc., usually it is not considered very extreme. They are the Revisionists that are extreme. Are the extremists usually only called Zionist, but that doesn't change the Zionist definition by no means.
cool, so not all Zionists are necessarily extremist. I don't understand the purpose of this thread though. do you want to know what people could accuse Zionists of? example?
Oh look! Here's a hook with my name on it. There are two kinds of zionism. The first is where scripture tells the Jews that ancient Israel is their spiritual homeland. They naturally wish to gravitate towards that center, just as Muslims and Christians also have claim to this land. This is the face most in the west are familar with when it comes to a mention of zionism. It's religious in nature. The second form of zionism is the problem. It's a radical movement that started in the closing years of the 19th century with the publication of a paper by one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Herzl The paper was entitled http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Judenstaat Moden Israel is founded on this doctrine, NOT Judaism. The religious and secular Jews alike are being used by the zionists. The religious ones especially. There are many places you can't go in Israel if you're not a Jew. Sounds racist to me. Religion hasn't done this. Zionism has. You've created a racist nation. You've gone out of your way to decimate the non Jewish populations, and you've instilled a sense of racial superiority among Jews themselves in Israel. This is no better than Hitler's idea of a blond haired/blue eyed master race. And zionism is largely a white Jew's domain. Rich white Jews. Modern zionism is no better than the KKK. It's a crime syndicate that hides behind the religious faithful. If we don't stand against this cancer, both in Israel and the US, it will consume us all. x
Hevron excluded, say to me where one not Jewish could not go. A big part of Israel they are Moslem only and one Jewish could not go. I'm speaking the Western Bank to Mediterranean. Gaza is a entire different story. Places that are supposed to be Jewish, as Bethlehem and Nazareth, you'd be astonished to find that they are Moslem.
Here's the thing: God GAVE that land to His chosen people, and if you want to stand against God, well, good luck with that.
Well, isn't that convenient? Isn't it standing against god to murder someone? "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." God made the covenant with his so-called "chosen people," and it was just that... an agreement which was supposed to be held up by both sides. When I look at Israel, and all the things I hear about it, I find it hard to believe that each and every one of them are honoring that commitment, and acting as children of God would. Its really bad to have a sense of entitlement, and if memory serves me right, The Israelites aren't supposed to be entitled to Zion until the coming of the Kingdom of God. Whats wrong with us all loving one another?
"The FBI also found that acts against Jews claimed 67.8 percent of the victims of religious hate crimes tallied in 2004. Anti-Muslim acts accounted for only 12.7 percent of the victims of U.S. religious hate crimes reported for 2004." But it'? s all a conspiracy, right? http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/08/24/mideast/index.html How generous. Palestinian rapists and murderers released from the prison by Israel, they walk the roads. This man that killed was (later revealed) to be one from that was released from the prison their. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3612042,00.html
