Before you automatically think i'm crazy or 'no way' it is the truth. Christians or any theist rejects past Gods such as the polytheistic ones as nonsense, hogwash, ancient mystical babble and i couldn't agree more. They're correct! But why don't they apply this athiestic, logical, rational arguement on their own God! They don't believe in Thor or Zeus or Mars and neither do I but i just go that one step further and if you're on the fence or can question your beliefs openly, i suggest you do the same. Don't be hypocrits, believe everything or nothing. Believe in evidence rather then faith, live in reality, not in the sky. Learn about Darwins natural selection because these are the true FACTS. For you agnostics, the question of God may seem unobtainable but i suggest you take a TAP (temporary agnostic position) on this question rather then a PAP (permanent agnostic position) Science is working every day and potentially one day we'll have more evidence then we do now to help us decide. Meanwhile the religious fear science and pray for gaps in knowledge because then they say: 'don't know? Only God can.' Bullshit!
this is the same thing richard dawkins says he always asks people why they don't believe in other gods and there's some quote.. "We're both atheists, I just believe in one less god than you." or something.
Most votarient followers of a particular faith usually, automatically, discount deities of other religions without much thought.
Reefer Rogue - - The old Troll awards you a D+ in Intro to Trolling 101. You need to do some basic “looking up” of things. I don’t say basic “research” because this is more basic than that. Hint: a Google search on “prefixes” might be a good start. theist - believes that there is one or more deities atheist - believes that there is no deity monotheist - believes that there is but one god polytheist - believes that there is more than one god multitheist - believes that there is more than one god If you base your trolling posts on bullshit, you'll only get bullshit responses. (and those do not count towards improving your grade in Remedial Trolling 2B) Have fun, play safely, and don’t play with fire!
That was a pathetic response, don't insult my intelligence, i know what those words mean. I give your post an F - coz you fail. If you believe in any god, you're rejecting others at the same time. All or none.
This part of your post is nothing more than ad hominem (sp?) attack, a falacious argument. Your definitions are lacking.... Partially true, but a theist also believes there is a god(s) who is a personal god and creator of the universe. While there are atheists who make the positive claim that "there are no gods", the typical definition of A-theist, is etymologically Non-Belief in a personal creator god. Non-belief in the existence of gods. The difference is subtle, but there is a difference. It can be argued that most "atheists" simply lack belief in gods and don't take the larger step of declaring "there is no god". The Strong Atheist (believes there is no god) is under the same burden of proof as the theist. The weak atheist (lacks any belief in gods) doesn't have any burden of proof for simply lacking a belief. Irrelevant to the OP, which is addressing Theists, not the rest. The post wasn't a troll post just because you said so and is again, nothing more than an ad hominem attack, Ad hominem attacks are often used in a debate or discussion where the speaker wishes to avoid the substance of the discussion and instead resorts to smearing the character of their opponent. It is considered a logical fallacy and is one of the modes of spreading propaganda.
Thank you, much more eloquently expressed then I. Respect. Yes, you are correct Behindthesun, It was said by Dawkins, as i'm reading the God delusion, i thought it's such a good point that it needed to be re-iterated, just wanted to see if any responces would follow. To me it symbolises hypocrisy which i reject. So sorry for trolling
A play with semantics: Applying the way Christianity has moved into cultures and has absorbed the beliefs of certain gods into the belief of the Christian god, it could be argued that because there is only one god, and opposite to that, the devil, that all other "gods" are either different human expressions of understanding of the god, or the devil...
Hey, Ukr-Can, is it propaganda to deny information or force information? It seems these days that HOW we learn to READ is some kind of pro-Gazan propaganda. But my neighbours think that exactly is the Jewish biased thing. Happy New Year (Theism at being Atheism)
Hey, framewalk, wtf are you talking about? If it is about my sig, your comment is exactly why i wanted to haev one like this. It is about the Holodomor, not the Shoah.
I just wanted to test the nails of meta-physical certainty. As they say: If God is dead, He is dead as a door nail. Or, si Dieu n'existe pas, tous est Possible. I think, Ukr-Can, Xexo, you wanted to prove that there is a lot to be said over the missing God in the world, a serious difficulty. Athiests, they don't understand that, unless a resistence occurs at the burst of emotion for articulating more and more the Creator's existence, the threatening problem it is. Thank you, It was fun working together.
Calling Theism Atheism is akin to insisting bald is a hair color. Atheist is derived from the Latin. No God. Theists believe in a God. It is not incumbent they believe in all God's.
Scientists have fairly recently discovered that the sky is part of reality I think Far superior to false-facts, most assuredly. Hmm, I would say my Agnosticism is based on the stance that I don't think the question is an especially relevant one to human existence. Science might also eventually prove that bees are black and yellow, not yellow and black, but frankly, why should I care? Science discovering how the universe was created? Bloody fascinating, I hope it happens in my lifetime, Science incidentally disproving god as a result? Couldn't care less. And it still wouldn't "disprove" the concept of god, in the same way that a man who could walk on water and raise the dead wouldn't prove the existence of god. These things just move the goalposts of a pointless game. In regard to your point about theists being atheists I like it, and it's a good point I think, though usually when it comes to comparative religion, theists don't reject other theists gods on rationalist grounds, most of the theists I know reject them on ideological grounds. My evengelical friend rejects things like Taoism or Pantheism, because he cannot stand the idea of an "impersonal" god. My Jewish friend rejects Christianity, because he thinks no god would send you to hell for picking the wrong religion, and we are judged only by our actions... So their differences are often Theological in nature, meaning that your request for them to apply their reasoning about other gods to their own god, would not actually do their belief much harm.
