What do you guys think is the best 2cx out of 2ci 2ce 2ct7 and 2ct2? I have had both "2ci" and "2cb"(or I was told it was). I perfered the "2ci" more, however it could have been a bigger dose than the "2cb" I got. I always feel whenever I take psychedelics I could take a bigger dose though. The reason why I ask is because I am going to be purchasing some 2ci, 2ce, 2ct7 and I just want to know what to purchase the most of, I was leaning towards the 2ci, but I just want to get the strongest substance at the smaller dose as prices are all the same. Also what is considered the strongest visually? I want to trip balls.
2C-E and 2-CB are supposed to be the most visual. In my experience, 2C-E (the only Phen I tried) is very powerful mentally even at low doses where it's not very visual. But if you're going for a high dose of one of them, I'm not sure if you want 'the most hardcore' one, whatever one you decide that is, because you'll be likely to burn out from it quickly.
This sort of gets beat to death over and over again here, you can search around and find lots of posts that compare these chemicals many times over. However... this is my take: All of the 2c's are fairly visual in high enough doses. In my experience, 2c-t-7 is by far the most visual, but it is also the one chemical that comes with the most annoying side effects (For me, anyways). 2c-t-7 has completely filled my vision with visuals, to the point where it was nearly impossible to see past them. You gotta see it yourself to believe it . 2c-t-2 is also suppose to be fairly visual, but I don't have much experience with it. Out of 2c-i, 2c-e and 2c-t-7, I'd recommend either 2c-e or 2c-t-7. They are both more intense, more psychedelic and more visual than 2c-i. 2c-i is more recreational, fun, and lighthearted for me (which is great, if that is what you are looking for), while the other two or more "deep" psychedelics. 2c-e is easier on the body for me, and is easier to handle in higher doses than 2c-t-7... while 2c-t-7 can be more intense both positively and negatively depending on how the trip goes. Its more wild and unpredictable in my experience. Plus, there have been reported deaths associated with 2c-t-7 in the past (due to irresponsible doses either being combined with mdma and/or high doses being snorted. So don't snort high doses and don't combine it with mdma, ok?) 2c-i is the most potent out of the three by weight, followed closely by 2c-e and in last 2c-t-7... but that is sort of a irrelevantt point, because the dose response curve is different for each chemical. So, that makes it difficult to compare relative potency versus weight... it depends on what level of trip you are talking about. And besides that, your individual sensitivity to each chemical may not be same as mine... making it sort of hard to determine which chemical you would get more doses out of. Hope that makes sense... :cheers2: It's a good idea for you to search around places like erowid and bluelight. Read some trip reports... that way, you can decide on your own which chemical you think is best suited for you.
ive tried 2c-i, 2c-c, and 2c-t-7. 2c-i is my favorite out of those three its the only one that really wowed me. not to say that 2c-c and 2c-t-7 arent good. i enjoy all three of them. 2c-i is just my favorite....so far. still havnt tried 2c-e i hear its the best.
Thanks, I appreciate all of the input it was very helpful Ill be getting a hold of some 2ci and 2ce here shortly.
I still haven't tried any of the 2C-X compounds. Could someone recommend me one that is quite visual with minimal headfuck?
i found 2c-t-7 to have visuals very similar to those of LSD but without as much of a mental component. 2c-i on the other hand is something unlike any other hallucinogen ive tried. weird stuff. tho i only had 1 trial with 2c-i and it was about 2 and a half years ago. ive also tried 2c-c. IMO these phenethylamines have less of a mindfuck than shrooms or acid. Is that a good thing? well it all depends what your looking for.
i was wondering which rc would be best advised for a party scenario, and capable of producing immense levels of wonder and love? 2ci seems closest, but any suggestions?
i've done 2ce, 2ci, and 4 aco dmt, and have to say that 2ci is my favorite, it feels like mescaline and ecstasy in my opinion, closely followed by 4 aco, which is like shrooms basically, without the nausea, and just is amazing. i'm sure they're all good though.
my goal is to figure out a list of substances to order fro the summer (or earlier). my bigger goal is to figure out a shopping list for when i go to burning man. crossing the border (especially with a weeks worth of supplies and stuff to build a shelter), i dont fancy having any illegal drugs on my person. therefore the 2c's seem my best options
2ci is decent trippy stuff, 2ce blows it out of the water tho. 2ce can be everything that 2ci is and 10x better. just takes some exploring with it as there are sooooo many sides to it, but it is truly beautfiul. now if u can get ur hands on 4-aco-dmt, that is some good shiiit. my favorite out of all of them as there are NO negatives in any way, IME, 3 and a half hours of nonstop laughing. this shit is amazing
If you're crossing the American border, and you have anything that isn't government sanctioned, prescription or over-the-counter pharmaceuticals, I can almost guarantee you'll run into trouble....
2C-I is definitely one of the more recreational psychedelics out there. It's euphoric, easy on the body, and quite clear headed.
what negatives do you see with 2c-e, just curious. i agree with the "sooooo many sides to it" that's a really good way to put it in a few words.