Ritalin

I get effects from 20mg or Ritalin, but I like to do an average of at least 300mg a day. I used to take a 20mg pill and a 40mg capsule in the morning, and a pills and a half in the afternoon. But I always took more from the bottle. THAT was fun.

 

Methamphetamine is way fucking stronger than methylphenidate. Stronger than coke, stronger than amphetamine.

A good dose of *pure* meth is like 20-30mg. A 'line' of pure methamphetamine would probably give you a heart attack.

You must be getting some shitty crank. That's the problem with meth, it's so easy to make and any average joe who has no idea what they're doing will try and synth it for easy money. It'll end up highly impure, or not even meth at all. (4-methylaminorex anyone?)

Pure methamphetamine cannot be beat. It will take your soul. Slowly.

 

I want my soul.

 

to geneity,

ive done quite alot of methamphetamine 'butter' or 'goo' as its known in australia, which is a brownish yellow paste that i believe is the purest form of speed before ice. its pretty much the purist stuff that you can find here, you see glassy ice from time to time, but our cooks our lazy and dont like losing weight in there drug shipments from futher purification. my point is i do easily 50-80mg lines of this stuff once of twice a day and will do 2 week binges with only naps in between. so id be pretty comfortable in saying that a 20mg line of pure probably wouldnt kill me at least. if you have information or a link that confirms your information please send it along, like i said i do quite alot of this stuff that i know is pretty close to pure and id like to know if im in danger, or risking death.

back to the subject at hand though, i like ritalin because you can dose yourself with the right amount by taking as many tabs as you need, its easy to get most of the time here and you can just pop a tab or crush and snort it and ITS PURE.

im no cook, so people if anything i said is wrong feel free to correct me. i like gaining knowledge =)


and also to geneity, in australia we use the name "crank" for a mix of coke and speed. its good stuff.

 

I was thinking about the lines dexedrine pills made. They're like a lot bigger than a coke sort of line. Heh. Oops.

 

4-methylaminorex totally owns meth, all day every day. you guys gotta remember though, a pill that says 20 mgs actually weighs more than 20 mgs. you gotta count for the other stuff in pills, they arent just pure product. 20-30 mgs of pure meth giving you a heart attack? nahhh... ok, maybe some people, but not everyone. how small do you make your coke lines dude? if i do meth, i like to snort it, but its not something i try to do, but anyway, i always make the lines as if im making coke lines, you just cant do as many of them. methylphenidate wins over meth cause it never made me flip out and get overly paranoid while thinking my friends were calling out to me from all over on the streets when they werent even in the same town as me. and 4-methylaminorex wins over both of them because its funner and lasts longer than meth.

 

Why in the fuck would you want something to last longer than meth? I mean amphetamine has a bit shorter of a duration than meth (~12 hours) and THAT is wayyyy too long. Especially with multiple doses (because who does one line of speed ) it's more like 24-36 hours.

The duration of amphetamine makes me crazy. It's fun for awhile but at least half of it's duration is miserable because the second you stop peaking you want more, and even though you're still high it's not enough, and you feel distressed and annoyed.

I don't think I said 20-30mg's of pure meth would give one a heart attack. I was talking about the lines dexedrine pills make. They're a good 100-200mg's.

4-methylaminorex? Have you experienced it? How did you know it was 4-MAR? I'd be interested in hearing all about it.

 

LOL

 

^ I find the amphetamine psychosis to be an experience in itself, that's for sure. Some crazy shit man....

 

yeah, i hate it. its like being in a state of delirium similar to diphenhydramine, only your not tired and sedated, your amped and hyperactive. thinking your reflection in a window is somebody calling you out for a fight is not really that fun to me. i liked the 4-methylaminorex because it was different than meth. it had less of a harshness to it. i know it wasnt meth cause i know what meth shards look like. these shards looked different and had a different high. we already knew about 4-methylaminorex, so we werent sure at first, but after looking it up again we were like, it has to be that. i guess i like it better though because its not something you get all the time, sort of a novelty. but i havent done enough of it to know what type of psychosis it causes. i think it'd be like dopamine and maybe a little bit of serotonin syndrome. it has a little bit of a serotogenic vibe to it. so methylphenidate wil probably win over it too, cause ive never had psychosis from methylphenidate, but i could sleep on it usually, so maybe thats why. 10+ days on it, no psychosis; 3 days on meth-well more like 5-7 days "on" it, 3 days doing it-savage psychosis, although i was doing a savage amount of meth in those three days, we were hitting the pipe all day every day cause homegirl got her financial aid money but didnt even go to school anymore. never done that much meth before, never gunna do it again. 2 days on 4-methylaminorex and no psychosis, but i wasnt doing nearly that much of it. fuckin speed. i'll stick to dxm, im more comfortable with its array of affects and psychoses.

 

Finally someone with half a brain around here! Yes it's true, if someone who thought that methylphenidate(or any of it's analogs like 4-methylaminorex) where more "powerful" than either amphetamine or methamphetamine, then they must have had the shittest speed known to man, which isn't a surprise when most cooks out there cut it with like 95% starch or whatever.

Methamphetamine, and amphetamine more so, (since it's of lower molecular weight, which makes all the difference with the potency of any phenethylamine) is the most powerful of all stimulant drugs, it cannot be beaten, and never will, it warps your sense of perception so drastically that it manages to keep you more in touch with reality than anybody, except your view of it brightens up, as does your self-image. Mice don't inject themselves with it until they pass out dead for no reason, and as far as i know, no mouse has ever injected itself with some shitty 4-methylaminorex or even ritalin for that matter, because it's of a completely different league to amphetamines all together.

Had any of these people tried pure methamphetamine, which, like you said, even 30mg of it, then they would surely never even think of touching ritalin nor 4-methylaminorex ever again. Most of the speed sold on the street is such shit really, that most people who try speed and switch to other drugs instead do so because of ignorance. The only real chance you will get of getting close to pure amphetamine on the street is by using ice or crystal meth, and believe me, most people who use that don't even bother with any other drug, even heroin, because nothing fucks your head more, and nothing keeps you more wired, than does big chunks of methyl or unmethylated amphetamine.

 

wow. thats the stupidest shit ive ever heard. meth keeps you more in touch with reality than anyone else? yeah, and the cia really is in your attic and your whole family and neighborhood are also in on it. and i dont think 4-methylaminorex is an analouge of methylphenidate. i like them both better than crystal because crystals shit. thats why one of its slang names is just that, shit.if youve done 4-methylaminorex youd know. first of al it last longer and doesnt make you crash as hard. just cause its less addictive doesnt mean its weaker, it means its better. it wont try to kill you.

 

Drugs do not kill you. You kill yourself with them. I don't see meth jumping up anyones nose.

Meth will keep you more alert than everyone else for maybe....6-8 hours....then you start to lose it. Mass serotonin release will eventually drive you quite insane.

 

yeah i didnt mean literally dude. i was using a literacy device called personification. it makes writing funner and relates my feelings on the subject better. i feel that one develops a relationship of sorts with the drug one is abusing, and whether they know it or not they personify it in their minds already. so, with that in mind, i was comparing the gripping addiction of meth to the not as addictive, yet equally as powerful, 4-methylaminorex and methylphenidate. it still doesnt manage to keep you 'more in touch with reality than anybody else' though. thats hilarious to me that someone would believe that. and the way he typed it in context with the rest of his post, he seems so confident in his belief about it. thats how people get stuck on it. it starts with thoughts like that.

 

me and my friend took 45 once

 

45 Ritalin? You and your friends should have died. Why on earth would you be so careless with a drug? Do you assume just because it's prescribed it must be safe?

I can't stand people who just do shit without thinking, researching, or caring about the consequences of things. Consider yourself lucky you didn't end up in the Hospital. If you are still doing stupid shit like that, then maybe it would have been a good thing if that happened to you.

 

Okay, i admit i might have been a bit pretentious with my meth post above, but all i was really trying to say is that pharmalogically, methamphetamine and amphetamine beat both 4-methylaminorex and ritalin in terms of potency, and the word "potency" is a varied one at that, in terms of how it numbs your mind, ritalin and 4-methylaminorex are more potent in that aspect of the effect spectrum than the amphetamines are, but in terms of full body and mind stimulation, 4-methylaminorex and ritalin cannot even compare to the amphetamines.

 

my friend did 600 ritilan once it didnt even hurt him

 

^ lalalalala

 

No way somebody could do that much... I was on it hard core, enough to do a laboratory study of abuse. I did probably around 400mg a day more or less depending on if I was smoking or drinking as well. 600mg at a time would most likely make you od.