Ketamine, 200mg injection, Opiate Receptors Here I Come!

I enjoy being a drug crusader. I saw a lot of people take interest in my I.M. DXM thread, so I was thinking about how at doses above 150mg, ketamine starts to bind to opiate mu receptors and sigma receptors. Note that injecting 160mg's of ketamine is less stupid than injecting DXM. At least I know I won't suffer [as much] brain damage, though It's probably not good to do so much K at once. HOWEVER. I plan on megadosing vitamin C 15 minutes prior to injection. I'm talking 4 grams of it. It's well known that Vitamin C is neuroprotective in megadose levels against neurotoxic drugs.

Anyway. Last night I received 2 500mg vials of ketamine. I decided to introduce myself to that oh so lovely feeling that only ketamine can produce again, as it's been months. I injected 75mg into my left thigh, and 20 minutes later another 75mg. Ketamine has a really shitty duration. Maybe 30 minutes of peaking. I managed to stretch that to 45 minutes. Nothing spectacular. Though it was quite fun.

That's a high dose for both shots. I started at 50mg like everyone else though. I've injected up to 125mg in a single shot. Due to my escapades last night I will have a slight tolerance. That's why I'm shooting for 160mg, so I won't end up disappointed. It will be split into 2 injections of 80mg's each into my right and left thigh. I have a good 5 minutes after the first to inject the second before it starts to hit, but I have to be quick as I'd like it to all come on at around the same time. That's 1.6?mL of liquid into each spot. 3.2mL might cause a lot of pain and last for days. Ketamine has to injected slowly or it does hurt quite a lot.

However I still remain most interested in how it'll feel now that the ketamine will be binding to my opiate and sigma receptors as well. This is gonna be around 10:30 tonight (EST). I'm also gonna call a friend I made from here on the phone and do it with him on the phone, because that should be an interesting experience.

Expect a detailed trip report, but no times as I'll probably be too far gone to type or care. I'll have JWH-018 soon as well, so expect a nice report on that too.

 

I'm not exactly sure how strongly your tolerance is going to play into this, but... isn't that likely to be near anaesthetic dosages? Making it sort of irrelevant for you whether or not it activates the mu opiate or sigma receptors? I mean, you aren't exactly going to be concious enough to remember any of it? Or will you?

I'm just curious. I don't have much experience with IM dosages of ketamine so I'm just speculatin...

How are you planning on dosing the JWH-018 when you get it?

 

Hmm well the definition for 'anesthetic' is something that allows you to undergo surgery without the stress of pain or otherwise. From wiki, lol. But maybe I should do 160 in case it does mean that?

Heh.....

EDIT::

Yeah I've decided to go with 160mg

Though the title of the thread will be 200 and I can't change it.

 

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Yea man, I don't really want to deter you from your original idea or anything, I was just curious. Its possible with your specific sensitivity and the tolerance you have from dosing last night that 200mg might be perfect for tonight. Or it might be too much... I really don't know. I was just asking... I also don't know what its like to hit k-hole, much less dose high enough to go past one.

As far as whats meant by an anaesthetic... A General anaesthetic is defined as:

 

You ever try IV? It's so much less painful then IM and you get the high a lot quicker. Another good way is to get a small bolus and do an infusion. It carries the high for a longer duration.

 

Yeah K is like coke that way, lasts wayyyyyy too short

Good luck have fun, hope it's not just unconsciousness

 

/me wonders if you spent the night chasing after that k-hole or something since you didn't respond last night. lol. Hope it went well.

JWH-018 sounds like an interesting cannabinoid. Slightly shorter duration than THC. It's also suppose to be almost an instantaneous high when smoked, unlike with THC where there is a delay as it needs to be metabolized first. You'll have to comment on what the product looks like when you get it... I've heard it suppose to be a clumpy sticky brown tar like stuff, not a powder. Not sure if any of this is true or not, as I've never seen it or tried it myself.

 

Yeah.

I ended up injecting 160mg last night, 80mg in each thigh, just so everyone is aware.

Needless to say I got my ass kicked. In a good way, but it was a little scary when I lost touch with my surroundings.

And no, I'm not going to IV anything ever. Too dangerous, the highs are too strong. I figure once I IV anything I won't be able to do it any other way again without feeling let down. I don't need that.

So. Sadly I don't remember a good half hour of time, at all. I didn't pass out, but I did lose all touch with reality for awhile. I hung up on Kurt when the second dose hit (Since they were in 2 different places there was a few minutes of lag between the peaks of both). That was lame. Talking to him was cool until I couldn't understand what he was saying or formulate a response anyway.

So I'll try to do this to the best of my ability.

I started off by eating 4 grams of Vitamin C in 8 tablets. Yummy, though a little too much to stay yummy. 20 or so minutes before the injection.

I sucked up 160mg of solution into the syringe. Before I do that I always wipe down the area with an alcohol wipe, and leave it there while I prepare the ketamine. I injected 80mg's worth of solution into my left thigh. I immediately wiped down an area (I'm aware of where there are muscles and nerves, as to not cause unnecessary injury) on my right thigh and injected the last of the solution. I could already feel tinges of it. The anxiety that comes on with knowing you just injected a massive dose of mind altering chemical. This was around 10:35

I called Kurt, and he answered and we start talking and shooting the shit about whatever. I don't remember any of our conversation anyway. We talked for maybe 10 minutes. I had never talked to him on the phone before so it was interesting to hear his voice. It started to come on after about 5 minutes. At first it came on somewhat slowly. I started to lose bearing on what we were talking about and it was getting a little hard to follow what he was talking about.

Then the second dose started to come up. (8-10 minutes)

At this point I started to get really confused about what I was holding in my hand (the phone) and all I could do was concentrate on his deep voice. Not who he was or what we were talking about. I tried really hard to keep talking to him but I couldn't speak. I could hardly think. It started to become a burden to hold the phone and I took it away from me ear and looked at it. What a strange device. I closed it, and thought "Shit, that wasn't very nice" in chopped, messed up sequences. I put down the phone, still pondering how something of such oddity came into existence.

At this point the trip took on a tone that I had never experienced. I started to feel incredible. Not in a way similar to opiates, but a seemingly 'fractalized' euphoria and an INTENSE dissociated body high. I knew I was in for a ride, but I underestimated what such a heavy dose would do. I don't regret it though. My vision was highly distorted in the way only a really high dose of a dissociative does. I wasn't hallucinating as people seem to think ketamine makes happen.

This whole time I am sitting at my computer in the nice computer chair. Had I known what I was in for I'd of laid down somewhere. Sitting up was a little distressing. I lost my ability to interact with my surroundings at maybe....the 15-20 minute mark? I was just sitting there in complete awe. I was so far gone and it was beautiful, yet scary. The body high was fantastic and the mental high was utter insanity. It does certainly feel different when it binds to opiate receptors and sigma receptors.

Eventually, maybe after about 45 minutes of this, I started to find my way back to the world around me. I turned on some music (and to be honest music sounds far away and less nice then it dose even sober, because of the way NMDA antagonists block signal pathways) and rocked out while I could actually interact with my high. After another hour or so I was pretty baseline, but still odd. I went to sleep after that. Took a little while though.

That's a decent report of what happened. I suppose.

The Vitamin C worked amazingly by the way. The usual heavy depression I get after ketamine use is not even slightly present.

 

That's an awesome report, thanks man.

You plan to IM ketamine like that in the future? If you do, do you plan to lower the dose a bit next time or keep it about the same?

 

I've been IMing ketamine ever since I started. I have tons of syringes just for it. I only IM it. That way I know the exact dose. It comes in sealed vials to me so it's best.

I've done 50mg, 75mg, 100mg, 125mg, 160mg. I've done 50 a few times and 75 a few times and 100 a few less times. 125 once and 160 once.

I'll probably do more tonight because I love it so goddamn much.......

100mg, maybe 125. 160 was too much IMO.

 

You do realize that IM Ketamine is MUCH better then IV Ketamine, right? Not just because of the safety issue, but the drug works A LOT better IM then IV.

Not everything is made for IV.

 

Gen you put the experience beautifully. And yeah what you see on ketamine are not "hallucinations" like on lsd, they are full dreamlike states where things like "time" and "space" dont mean anything and are in constant flux along with your subconscious

 

YES

YES

Oh my god I've trying to explain that weirdness but you put it right into words quite well. Time and space mean NOTHING on ketamine. Therefore your entire existence becomes an endless question. When you're really in the k-hole, not even physical things mean anything anymore. It's so hard to explain and it's such an insane state of consciousness. Not even mind. Because you are no longer who you were. It's like ego death.

 

Yum..

 

Yeah and last night I did 100mg, still too much in my opinion. Tonight I'm doing 80, because that's all that's left in the first vial. The second vial I'm gonna wait awhile on

 

"At this point I started to get really confused about what I was holding in my hand (the phone) and all I could do was concentrate on his deep voice. Not who he was or what we were talking about. I tried really hard to keep talking to him but I couldn't speak. I could hardly think. It started to become a burden to hold the phone and I took it away from me ear and looked at it. What a strange device. I closed it, and thought "Shit, that wasn't very nice" in chopped, messed up sequences. I put down the phone, still pondering how something of such oddity came into existence."

this is great stuff geneity. excellent experiment, good report.

 

Not really, actually, I prefer it IV. It isn't dangerous if your itellegent about it and the onset is much quicker. And anything you can use to get high with is def most of the time used IV. I work at a hospital. So fuck you idiot!

 

are you a custodian? just kidding

 

i IV ganja butter.. it works wonders