Thoughts of religion

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by Orsino2, Oct 19, 2004.

  1. FreeBird1969

    FreeBird1969 Fleas on their paws.

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    One is the loneliest number...

    Religion starts wars, so I'm not going to talk about it anymore.

    Let's not bicker about the election either. I've gotten into too many fights over this damn election! I can't wait until it's over...
     
  2. moon_flower

    moon_flower Banned

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    Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of 10 things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these 10 things he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry for ever and ever until the end of time...but he loves you.
     
  3. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    lol sorry, you do seem like a nice person, and don't wanna insult ya if yer not a complete ass. :p [​IMG]
     
  4. MEltingpOpsicle3

    MEltingpOpsicle3 Member

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    aww girl i love ya!! right on!! I'm glad she cant vote yet either!
     
  5. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    and chuckroast, there is no such thing as terrorists. it's bullshit. :p
     
  6. MEltingpOpsicle3

    MEltingpOpsicle3 Member

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    right on man!!
     
  7. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    well put. of course, ya can't forget the magic storybook with endless, mindless rules that people pick and choose to justify prejiduces.
     
  8. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    I am not religious...I am very spiritual though....MY beleif in God is not that He is a little man who looks at us, He is an energy force, formless energy force....Why can't all the teachers of the True revealed religions be right? Huh...How come they can't allbe teaching of the same deity, but to a different part of the soul...I turn to Krishna and eastern things for knoledge, and guidence, but to Jesus for love and and strength (not saying Krishna doen not have these)...but anyways, ya, its crazy fundamentalists who are a main root behind and war, and Jesus probobly had more people killed in His name than any other...(Hitler, Crusades, etc...)
     
  9. mellow_hendrix

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    same :)
     
  10. mellow_hendrix

    mellow_hendrix Member

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    hahahahaha i like you
     
  11. moon_flower

    moon_flower Banned

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    That's organized religion in a sense.
     
  12. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    Ya know, I am a patriot. Patriots aren't all war-praising, bloodthirsty neocons.
     
  13. SunFree

    SunFree Member

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    Hmm...to me, Patriotism always seemed to me to be the arrogant belief that you and your country are superior to all other people and countries. I guess it could just be love for your native land, if taken and expressed in the right way.

    As for religion.

    I have been raised in the Lutheran Church my entire life, and have spent a large chunk of my life studying and learning, in different ways, about this faith. At this point in my life, I don't think I could say that I am a christian.

    To clear this up: I am a liberal. I am extremely, extremely liberal, always have been, even in my religious mindset, even when I came at heads with many fellow parishioners, as I'm in the midst of now.

    I hate many of the tenants of christianity, and all the instances of war and hatred that have sprung from it.

    However. Simply because zealots and political troublemakers and power-hungry individuals skew doctrine and warp or delete everything that was good about it, and use it as a way to manipulate and take advantage of people, does NOT necessarily mean that the original text is something that only spurs on intolerance and division.

    Yes, the bible contradicts itself innumerable times. Yes, it says some things that I just cannot believe in, or invest myself as being a part of.

    But you can't say that Jesus didn't preach nonviolence, because he did. You can't say he didn't urge forgiveness as an ultimate priority, because he based countless lessons and parables on this. And you can't say he didn't place love; both loving God, and loving eachother, as the highest ideal to strive toward on earth, because he explicitly said it.

    Even if you don't believe in much of what the bible says, you can still admit that there ARE some genuinely good things about it. There is something hidden beneath. Something I can't always see, and something I cannot always accept, but it is there.
     
  14. Orsino2

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    My family is lutheran. We never go or really follow any religion orthodoxly... but our background and history has been lutheran. My dad was hindu from about 1971 to 1987.
     
  15. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    Being Canadian, I hear a lot of people bash the US, and it is easy to find fault, but I can shut them up real quick, by asking, name a better country? Other than Canada, they never can.....
     
  16. Orsino2

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    I know... but Canada is the best country... they're not even neutral yet they never have their own wars.
     
  17. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    correction: Edwardia is the best country (my country). it's not so cold there.
     
  18. Orsino2

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    I still like Canada...
     
  19. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    I live in Canada, and it is a lot warmer where I live than it is in many states. Some winters we dont even get snow, and in the summer, it can stay over 90 degrees for weeks at a time.
    Still, canada is a little too wishy washy, I like the US cuz it has more emphasis on personal rights and freedoms, though that is being slowly eroded.
     
  20. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    "many states" meaning them cold north states. of course, i wouldn't wanna live in them either cause they're too cold. ... what part of canada do you live in? o-O

    MOVE TO EDWARDIA!!! everything is free there. :D even people!
     

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