People who dislike Christmas

admitadly religion has improved since the days of the crusades. but it doesnt mean that its as innocent and pure as it portrays itself. most organized religion is still a money hungry conformity machine that the government relies on to control the general public.

 

Most of modern American society is a money hungry conformity machine that the government relies upon to control the general public. If it's not religion, then it's something else. Media, pharms, war, etc.

Yet, you can totally beat it... it's probably one of the easiest things to beat...

 

well, yeah its easy to beat if your trying to overcome the obstacle for your own good. but its the people that i care about that are sucked into the conformity machine that im worried about. im rather ashamed of the greed involved in my family and friends. I've actually considered starting my own commune/ranch for my family and friends to see if i can make their lives better by trying to teach them my ways and point out the flaws in the ways of the society that they have been living in. but thats just a dream that i hope to accomplish someday.

 

No one likes a preacher, and no one likes to be told that they are wrong. Your family and friends will not come unto your beliefs unless they actually want to... and I can almost guarantee that they do not. Starting your own commune or whatever will not only be impractical but would most likely alienate you from your family.

All in all, you aren't any more right in your beliefs that they are in theirs. There is no absolute truth or a truly good way to live. There is no right or wrong. Preaching your beliefs to them, or even trying to teach them peacefully, is just as hypocritical as their preaching to your about good ol' Jesus.

It's a nice and idealistic dream, but you might try to focus more on yourself and focus on something more practical. It will save you a couple of years of doubt.

 

Christmas is not about religion for me. I don't celebrate the birth of Jesus. I just enjoy being with family, dressing up a little, having some food, getting drunk, decorating our fake tree and maybe exchanging a few gifts. I don't really care what the origins of Xmas were. It's just a time for family. It's what you make it. My parents never were able to buy us tons of presents growing up, but they always managed to get us a little, and we were always happy with what we got. Today my mom got me a nightshirt, and a cheap jacket for Xmas that I picked out myself. I was thrilled! They've always gotten us stuff we needed mostly.
I want to not like Christmas, but I can't. It always sneaks up on me and I'm always like: err, Christmas already? But then as it gets closer and closer I get into it more. There IS a sort of magic about it.
Quite often though, Christmas day is full of mixed feelings for me. Last year kind of sucked. I cried. I hope this one is better.
My older sis and her husband and my lil niece and nephew are coming to visit on friday. My neph is 8 months old and I haven't met him yet. From what I hear (and what I've seen from pics) he's a chubby little cutie. On Saturday me and my other sis and some friends are going to see Trans-Siberian Orchestra, and our older sis might be able to come. That would be awesome since we haven't really done anything the 3 of us in awhile.
Then on Xmas eve the fam is going to travel to Louisiana to see our grandparents, cousins, aunts and uncles. That's where it gets weird.

 

well...YEAH. but the winter ones are the best because it's SO FUCKING COLD AND DARK.

 

Whiskey time.

 

Who stole it?

 

how does one steal a holiday, anyway? the pagans can't celebrate? wtf?

 

I don't like it really

Crappy weather, kind of boring day after the morning

The only things I like are seeing people who have moved out of town come back, but even then ain't shit to do on Christmas itself

 

You steal it by killing off all the pagans?

 

nah. they're all still around. they jsut kept celebrating their holidays and pretending to be christian. personally i think it's clever.

 

Damn heathens... we should kill them all off!

 

but they have such fun holidays!

 

Yes, lets make them our own! Ha! That will show them!

Take the Jews out next.

 

now you're catching on! 2000 years of success can't be wrong!

 

As a Pagan and former Jew I don't find this turn of conversation particularly entertaining...

 

Maybe we can also get them Tibetan Buddhists, you know that they are up to no good.

A former Jew? Did you regrow your foreskin or something?

 

If we can't have Mithras back, you can't be a race unto yourselves.

OTOH Christians DO look good in lion poop.

 

Awww! Totally. a time to get together with my family. to share the magic of the holidays with my daughter. Love it.
The family stress, overeating junk I don't need, xtian dogma bull being tossed at my agnosticism and all.:cheers2: