Which one? There's a new one called zeitgeist addendum, but i havn't seen it (don't really want to!) but i imagine it simply expands upon the original zeitgeist which i have watched. I think you only have to look at history to see that treachery like this HAS happened in the past. Military powers need enemies and the booty of war has usually been the incentive for a deliberate failure of diplomacy prompting grounds for war. The rich have traditionally kept the poor down for fear of losing what they have ect ect. The only bit i liked was the parallel of the death and ressurection of christ as the apparent death and rebirth of the sun.... yet that has nothing to do with the scary stuff eh?
I've seen parts of it, it's mostly lies, except for the Federal Reserve Part, which resembles Aaron Russo's From Freedom to Fascism. But its attack on Christianity and denial of Jesus is just too malicious and groundless.
... so you agree with the film about 9-11 and the federal reserve then? I have a friend that doesn't believe Jesus existed, he says there is simply no proof. I say to him "Sure, but there's no proof that millions of people that lived back then existed either ... that's archeology for ya ... just because there's no solid proof doesn't mean he didn't". Personally i think there's enough 2nd hand evidence (writings about him) to say that he did exist. Yet Jesus was a man, whereas 'christ' is a state of being ... a state i believe Jesus attained. - So this 'sun as christ' thing ... it's just symbolic; the sun (one of countless suns) as an outward symbol of the life and love within us.
i really disagreed with the many unfounded attacks on christianity as i am a christian, the creators of zeit geist interpretted differant parts of the bible to justify their slanderings. for example, they were saying that christians do not believe in dinosaurs, when, in fact they are in the bible. however, in the bible the are called dragons and other beasts. but this is mearly one examples of their many errs.
Sheesh!!!!! Out of all the things you could be debating about Zeitgeist, it's the "Jesus thing"???? What about 911? What about those little "chips" in our bodies!! What about one world government?? What about all the games our governments are playing with our minds. Oh my God!!! Watch it again!
Shame about the Jesus stuff, their argument wasn't particularly strong, or scholarly from what i hear... without it the film would have had more credibility. 9-11 ... too many independant experts with what seems pretty good evidence ... demolition style explosions, the way the building came down, interceptor jets not being scrambled ect ect, but also the fact that there havn't been any 'terror attacks' of the like since that time, both in the US and the UK ... and i find that very suspect. Did the supposed terrorists all decide to give up terrorising the west and terrorise indonesia instead? My intuition tells me it was an inside job ... on both sides of the atlantic and they got what they wanted ... tighter security and surveillance, laws changed so they can stop protests and clear riff raff off the streets, detain pretty mutch anyone they like and even kill people 'in the name of terror' ... more power and control to the powers that be. Not to mention creating an enemy in the east ... grounds for sanctions, war ect. One world government ... they'll never manage it. Mind control ... well one thing we do know for sure is the use of sonic devices to clear young people off the streets at night and i find that pretty sick in itself, more than that i don't know but there are threads on the forums which may suggest this kind of control goes way further. I'm sure they're experimenting with such technology though. Federal reserve stuff ... well i've watched a few online documentarys about this stuff and it seems that the fact that there is no law enforcing anyone to pay federal income tax is a given and quite true ... as for them simply printing money, hey it wouldn't surprise me at all. apparently the bank of england does the same and that seems a good reason for not joining the euro. So yes it's all really creepy huh?
what I see here is what this zeitgeist thing was actually right about , religion prevents people from being rational. No matter how important all 999 topics dicussed in the documentary are, all you've understood from there is "it contradicts my religion, so it is a lie!" done. not worth of my attention. i think, what really matters is the purpose of the movie, this is what should be the subject for our discussion here. and so far the zeitgeist movement didnt make any negative impression on me. Those people seem to be trying make our society move forward, improve it, make it better. Is it a bad thing? I agree with one comment posted above- just watch it again, may be this time skip the religious part and see how you feel about the rest of the movie. I watched Zeitgeist Addendum. way better than the first movie. good documentary, worth of watching it, I recommend
it seems at first glance, however there are two big differences New World Order offers one world government and one-unit monetary system, while thezeitgeistmovement seems to deny both. Now, whether thezeitgeistmovement is a method of the rulling class to smoothly lead us into the New World Order or not, nobody can guarantee. But we can either support it or not do anything. So may be we should try and analyze
I do agree with the stance the movement has taken on money. The love of money is the root of all evil.
The problem is, trying to deny Jesus' existence is just a bad idea. There are plenty of Roman historians trying to denigrate Christians, if Jesus did not exist, they could simply use that point to discredit the Christian religion. But they did not, nor did the Roman authority who was actually repressing Christians, because they know Jesus did exist and denying that fact would be futile.
were all fucked. that doc opened up my eyes to a lot of shit. and i cant say i believe ALL of it. but i can say our whole world is a lie. this life were living is a lie. scary stuff. watch if you havent. i think everyone needs to.
Watch the money masters too http://video.google.ca/videoplay?do...ei=hLlfSfCLFqGG_AHWk827Cg&q=the+money+masters Very well researched and presented documentary on central banking (control of world credit).
Don't sweat it girl. The world has always been a lie. The BIG LIE. Being aware of that is the first step to original thought and the greatest adventure of your life! Don't be afraid, just look and see... Awareness is our birthright! ZW eace:
Jesus was a great man who taught us many things about love and compassion. I am Certainly no Christian, but we could all take a leaf out of his book. Especially the above poster. Wonderful use of your first post! </sarcasm>
