This is what Rudenoodle thinks Hippy Nature is. Anyone care to discuss it with him?

That's just Hippy Nature!

 

Yes we have been here a lot longer and we do understand how this world works, I mean, what do you think the new revolution is for, to keep the world the way it is or change it?

If you think it's Ignorance to want to change the world for the better and it's "common sense" to let the world remain the way it is and just go along with it, so be it.

As for me and mine we will have none of your "common sense".
Still crazy after all these years,
OWB

 

:rofl: :banghead: :svengo:

 

I guess misquoting people is part of what you think "common sense" is.

It's good that people can read the whole quote for themselves.

 

No use in adding to this .

Have a great New Year Rudenoodle

 

I've never read such crap in my life. Please go to the thread we all live in the same world. Hippie nature if truly adopted as a life style is not smoking dope or taking mushrooms and thinking you can fly. Also google gloria martin and see what the life of an original hippie meant. You talk a bunch of bullshit, get off your ass and away from that robot that is your computer and do something positive for this world. This hippie is in Bangkok working to take care of street dogs and I financed it with a real job.

 

There is no new revolution. There are only aged hippies sitting in front of computers talking about revolutions.

You first have to understand the world in order to be able to change it, and once you do understand the world you realize that the only true change you can inflict upon it is change through example and in the area around you.

Why don't you try to change something in your community if you're so set on changing the world? Why don't you go out and give someone a hand at something, buy a bum a meal, or spend some time with your grandkids instead of spending time on this forum? Now that is real change.

You cannot change the entire world. Revolutions only cause destruction and practically never lead to any good, no matter how "peaceful" they are.

"Crazy" is a great way to describe the hippie movement. Idealism to such an extent is much more dangerous than most things out there. It's too bad that you people still can't realize that.

Now how the hell did you sucker me into replying?

 

So you say but what do you think I mean by “New Revolution”?

I couldn’t agree more. Why do you think it’s called a “New” revolution as opposed to just another of the old revolutions just newer.

Once again what do you think the “New” revolution is?

I drive 10hr days for Access-a-Ride, that’s picking up people with disabilities and taking them where they want to go and some of what I see is just heart breaking but I try to do it with a smile on my lips and a song in my heart because they deserve nothing less, to me that’s all part of the “New Revolution”.

Now I return the question, what have you done lately, to make the world a better place?

Why not? If it needs changing then at least you should try, shouldn’t you? Or do you like the world just the way it is?

If you read the above, please show me how my being part of the “peaceful" "New Revolution” is causing destruction and is a bad thing?

Crazy has been defined as deviation from the norm. But in this system of things, the norm is insane so to be sane one has to be crazy.

If wanting a world based on love instead of hate is dangerous, then buddy, you better believe I’m dangerous!

“I was reading this thread, out of simple boredom, since the basketball game that I'm watching has way too many commercials in between timeouts...”

I would guess this might have had something to do with it.

 

Also BraveSirRubin, if you’re siding with Rudenoodle in this discussion, Rudenoodle seems to be advocating war as the means to change the world.

I would like to you to tell me how war is any less dangerous, destructive, or leads to more good than a peaceful nonviolent revolution?

 

You're free to go back to England...

 

I'm not advocating war, I'm stating that it is not always bad.

War is destructive and dangerous that's why it's war, they attempt to "market" sanitized versions of battles on the main stream media but that doesn't mean that people are not being hurt and killed by it.

I understand where your coming from OWB, you don't want to do anything but you still want to feel as though you did something about the current war.

What better way than to preach about no more war or other such nonsense?

I wander how much more "hippie" paraphernalia sells during times of war?

"Give peace a chance" and other slogans similar to it is a cop out answer to a very real question.

If you heard that Indiana was being attacked by some country would you still be shouting give peace a chance? no blood for corn?

Hippie ideology is to politics what belief in the literal supernatural is to philosophy.

An easy answer and a complete waste of time.

Globalization and U.S consumerism will change the world (and currently is) faster than peace and love.

 

Actually, you don't have any clue where I'm coming from. You have no idea of what I do or don't do or what I feel or don't feel. And just going by what you've written so far I don't see you getting a clue anytime soon

 

Yes it will, just take a look at the last year, I've got to admit that was pretty fast.

But the idea is to change the world for the better, not just plunge the world into a large recession or possibly the worst depression the world has ever known and call it change.

 

love

 

The writing's on the wall I think, still there since the beginning. A military industrial complex that uses our wasteful consumer society as a front is what I see and I don't think it'll stop until it's drained the earth dry.

The lesser of the two evils may actually be sloth, not caring about political power, playing loud music, and smoking ridiculous amounts of weed for no other reason than to be counterproductive to industry. If we're to take the "hippie lifestyle" for face value and ignore the deeper meaning behind it all.

Because maybe even a lazy bum who aims to be loving is truly a more godly offering to this world than the industrious types who're "just doing their part" and have society's blessing all the way.

But maybe it's just prolonging the inevitable. Maybe the materialists are on to something, that we're fucked anyway so we should just speed it up and die already. Let's all just plow this thing straight into hell. I can understand how someone might come to that conclusion.

It's horrible, and in the end maybe it's our fate to finally leave Earth in our spaceships, in search of other beautiful worlds to spoil.

Is that really our nature? Sensitive, intelligent witnesses who go along with the tide because its profitable? Or are we greater than that? Could it be that what looked like a waste of time to you was the hippies best attempt to try and find out?

 

I think a healthy belief in the supernatural can be a far more dangerous and difficult path to walk than just prescribing to scientific and social dogma.

I don't see how being a believer (which is really to say that one disbelieves the dogmas of science and religion) gives anyone easy answers; if anything it removes all certainty whatsoever.

 

Thanx, Share the Warmth, not saying I agree or disagree but a couple of interesting and thought provoking posts.

Thanx again,
OWB

 

What I was thinking.

No idea why it came up, though. It's just going to spark another debate to drive us further from the point. I don't understand why this guy goes off on so many tangents. It really is the mark of a troll, though he claims not to be one.

 

I would quote you all pretty-like just as you did, but I do not feel like it...so...

"New Revolution" is just a fancy name for being a decent human being, from what I gather...

I am happy to know that you do things to make the world a better place and that you help those in need. You ask me what I do to make the world a better place. Well... first of all, it is not particularly my intention to make the world a better place, I don't like humanity enough to want to help it out as a group... at the same time though, I do a lot to make the lives of the people around me better, and I simply do it by being a good person. It's rather easy.

Trying to change the entire world is pointless and a waste of an existence, simply because it is impossible. Do I like the world? I like today's world much better than the world of the past. We have made a whole lot of social progress as a society. Is it still a rather shitty place? Sure! Yet it is rapidly evolving.

You are dangerous, because you do not understand people. That's the biggest problem with hippies, they simply have no grasp of human nature. Humans are not love-driven, as sad as it is. You may be, and good for you! Yet, most people are driven by sex, greed, power, hate and so on. This world simply cannot be based on love, because humans do not function that way and nothing that you'll ever do will change that. You're better off realizing the truth and working around it than having some sort of imaginary utopia in your head.

War achieves much more than peaceful revolution, mostly because peaceful revolution achieves nothing. I am in no way, shape, or form an advocate of war, yet at times it is necessary. I think that Rudenoodle exemplified this well enough for me not to have to go into further details. I'm originally from Israel though, and believe me... we would be destroyed if we didn't wage war, and hell... I don't think that Israel is nearly as aggressive as it should be. Sometimes people hate you for no reason other than race, religion, and ethnicity... and you can do nothing to change that. You Americans are simply blind to such hate, growing up in such a rather calm setting. You are ignorant to it, which makes your opinions rather mute.

All in all, keep your "New Revolution" going, it seems to be a positive, personal revolution... but do not expect it to change the world.

 

Both economically and socially, the U.S. could have easily been better off as a colony of Britain, and no blood would have needed to be shed. The American Revolution did not happen for the idealistic reasons that you've been taught in school.

I do not feel like giving you a history lesson though. Either do your own research, or take my word for it.