What is the reasoning behind your psychedelic use?

why would a spiritual aspirant take psychedelics?

 

I do them in the hopes of exploring myself and, of course, having a good time. I'm not going to rule out the possibility of coming to some sort of life-changing spiritual revelation while under the influence of a psychedelic, but it's not what I'm after.

 

I like having life flash before my eyes

 

The cool part is we don't need to reason why we take psychedelics; it is the natural state of things for biological life to process molecules. It is the nature of the universe that the universe eats the universe, which is itself eating the universe which is being eaten by the universe which is doing the eating of the universe . . .

It's a lot more interesting to hear people's reasoning for not doing psychoactive substances. The answer is invariably fear

 

Do you really think so?

I'm inclined to believe that sometimes there is simply no desire to take psychedelics.

 

I don't take any psychedelics... Unless you include when I tried LSA(was major for me, I ate at least 1000 seeds). Not doing them is not a choice though, I just can't find them. This spring I'll find stuff at fairs and I'll find a reason.

 

are you asking why people who are spiritual about their drug use tend towards psychedelics as opposed to other drugs?

or, about the spiritual value of psychedelics?

personally it has a lot to do with my thoughts on the ego. since my interest in eastern spirituality, an interest in psychedelics has developed. since then i feel i've done a lot of growing in terms of how i understand what i'm looking for in the drugs. recently it has become more focused on recognizing that there is a life beyond my identity, that i'm not just the little things i get caught up in.

i don't need to trip often for spiritual reasons, just enough to remind myself there's more. the rest is really about how much i'm willing to recognize and integrate into my sober life.

although in all honesty sometimes it's just about the fun of visuals and being in an altered state.

 

I definitely feel this way sometimes with my current state of mind anyways. My daily flunctuations in perception of events is dreamlike in and of itself. But sometimes there's a desire for amusement within my psyche. Pretty much "amusement" sums it up. Also after some good amusement I find myself finding many more random things and events hilarious, like in one big joke of reality kind of feeling.

 

I've been pretty spiritual my whole life. I feel things and know things, but never get to see things. Examples would include people's auras, nature spirits, magical energies, ect.

I remember how in awe I was the first time I dropped acid because I could actually *see* the things I've always felt and/or known. So that's why I do it. (or did it rather...its been an awfully long time since I tripped) For some reason it opens my eyes

 

Well I'm a very quiet, introspective type of person, I live a lot through my mind instead of socializing. The first time I had a really strong trip with marijuana I learned a lot about the error of my ways in social situations. Things i could have done better, jokes i could have made, etc. After more bouts with smoking, this turned into fear and paranoia that i was making myself an outcast by not opening up to people and I had to quit for awhile and work on my social skills. I started going to bars and talking to people at school, actively making friends instead of avoiding people.

This gave me a huge confidence boost, and I'm no longer afraid of talking to anyone, and I'm a lot more motivated and ambitious. I recently started smoking it again and realized that in some situations I was being too ambitious or overly eager for attention etc. I smoked while watching the world poker tour and realized how every facial expression you make, your tone of voice, and even the timing of your reply shows a lot about what you are thinking. I learned from watching comedies while high how to have fun in a group of people.

Every time I smoke I learn something new about the world.

I've learned to accept change and realize the value of or short lifespans.

This all led to a desire to want to experience everything the world has to offer. Within reason, of course I don't want to send myself to an early grave. But I'd like to experience everything worth experiencing once, or in moderation at most.

I truly believe weed and psychedelics actually turned my life around in a positive way.

 

i just feel one with everything when i drop acid. I love the realization that everything is just energy vibrating very slowly but on acid it seems objects make their presence known to you and are vibrating on a higher frequency.

 

Not to make less of anyone elses reasons, now I feel more of a connection and magic in the right situations, but at first it was just for the recreational value, the end.

 

Same man. It started out for teh lulz but now i pour milk over the stone cow.

 

I call bullshit on that, psychedelics are straight up the most interesting thing known to man. The only thing to come remotely close (and still fall wayyyyy short imo) is sex, and you're gonna tell me people don't have sex because they have no desire? Nah, people don't have sex because they can't find a sexual partner or for some other reason, and people don't take psychedelics because on some level, for some reason, they are scared of some aspect of them.

It might be irrational fear of overdose, or death, or getting in trouble, or going crazy, or changing your life, or addiction . . . trust me, ask someone who doesn't want to do psychedelics why and eventually it will become clear.

 

the origins of every major religion are plant based. why do people take psychedelics for spiritual reasons? i can only answer by saying, because there is somthing to it. its potent medicine. why do people fast for extended periods of time? why do people do darkroom retreats? why do the natives perform the ghost dance, or the sun dance...? why do people spend their lives meditating? because inner space is the most outerspace you can get. lol. theres somthing to it. our cultural context would lead everyone to believe that psychoactive plants are nothing more than drugs, and anyone who takes them is crazy and is a criminal. in more tribal cultural contexts these plants are highly revered and respected. the shaman is the single most valued member of society. ??? let us judge a tree by the fruit it bears. on a personal level in my own life the fruit of my work with mushrooms, lsd, and specifically ayahuasca have been rich...

 

I like this perspective. You are right. I avoid as much psychedelics as I used to use due to a development of a blessed state of mind from psychedelics mixed with my personality. Granted. It's just crazy bipolarness. However, it is known how spiritual and uplifting an a good episode of mania can be. How much creativity it entails. That's why I say it's a blessing, granted the extreme negatives. The best part is you don't need drugs to enter a state of mania. Although using drugs can easily develope that state of mind immediately.

So I personally don't feel the need to use psychedelics because every day I'm already in an extremely psychedelic state. Life is an adventure. Even if I'm stuck where I am right now and that's part of the problem.

Much Love (Believe it or not)

 

Psychedelics are, for me, a way of actually experiencing life. They show everything to you in a completely new way and it is up to you to define it basically. Also anything that causes complete ego-loss can do more for you that about anything else, since then you can really learn about yourself.

In summary for me: Tripping is basically living life with all the bullshit stripped away and with some nice visuals as an added bonus.

 

what is this supposed to mean?

i read this weeks ago, and was drawn back to it as i'm tripping right now. does it mean something or am i just looking too deep?

 

i believe its simple, some people are meant to attain certain knowledge to help and them and certain people are meant to go around like robots or zombies or idk SLAVES?!?!?! lol

 

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