Christian Voice complains about pro-atheism advertising

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Hoatzin, Jan 8, 2009.

  1. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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  2. Maitereya

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    i think its fine. truth is a pathless land after all.
     
  3. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    Religion and non-religion both would be far better off if they didn't resort to propaganda of any form. But here we are.
     
  4. Hoatzin

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    Well quite, this was my first thought when I heard about the atheist ad campaign.

    Don't get me wrong, Christian Voice are being tossers and if they win this it will only be because no-one took them seriously enough to complain about their unsubstantiated claims.

    But I did feel the atheist campaign was rather unnecessary and childish. Funny as a prank, maybe, but not worth risking getting a precedent set over.
     
  5. odon

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    The amount of Christian advertising (even about 10 hours a week on the BBC) ... and these muppets moan about one advert! LOSERS.
     
  6. opel diamond

    opel diamond burn out

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    in fairness this is an advert from the yorkshire post.

    yorkshire folk moan about anything :tongue:

    i agree though, moaning about this is ridiculous. whenever im on the bus i have psalms on posters forced down my throat, so why not athiesm too. its kinda funny imo.
     
  7. odon

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    True.
    But, I have read about this outside of Yorkshire.
    This is not just a Northern flat cap thing.

    Their is always one.
    The group moaning are fundemental Christians so I'm not suprised they are moaning. But some of their objections are laughable. I would go on but I feel I may pass out laughing. It is kinda funny.
     
  8. opel diamond

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    what like? them saying it is given as a statement of fact?.....i dont think so!

    how can something with 'probably' infront of it be an absolute. in my opinion including the world 'probably' makes it non factual and open to any interpretation.

    and there is no evidence at all that there is no god, but the evidence that there is one.....well, too much to argue with! :rolleyes:
     
  9. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Good grief, yes.

    I did like this line though: I think the advertisers are really going to struggle to show their claim is not an exaggeration or inaccurate.
     
  10. opel diamond

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    lmao. yes that is a mammoth task. where as proving the existance of a devine being who created the world in 7 days, thats a walk in the park.

    maybe im just cynical.
     
  11. odon

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    Mammoth? there were no mammoths.
    You forget 7 days is a metaphor for 7 million years.

    Perhaps you are cynical, but we need another 6 billion people like you (or similar :rolleyes:)
     
  12. opel diamond

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    there were no mammoths? :( thats so sad.
    and i didnt realise it was a methaphor, my bad. the CofE primary school i went to never said?
     
  13. odon

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    Nope, no mammoths, no Dinosapiens...just man and woman...oh, and a snake (not sure where his parents came from.)

    Yeah, sorry, it is, apparently.
    The new revised addition to the beginings of the universe -
    I hear the next revision is a big one - Jesus was not white and did not have long hair. :eek:
     
  14. opel diamond

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    ahhh revised additions? and who claims authority for that?

    and im gutted about there being no dinosaurs. was the natural history museam one big hoax?
     
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    Saying there 'probably' is no God, sounds more like an agnostic point of view than atheist.

    And there are plenty of religious people who really believe is was literally 6 days, I work with one of them who was going on about how he will not work on Saturday as if I actually gave a shit about his nonsense! And if not 6 days then there are plenty other young earth pseudo-scientific religious people trying to say the world is only 10 thousand years old or some nonsense like that.

    Do you think Sunday was the first day of light? I don't, I think Sunday was invented some 14 Billion years after light, and light was not invented but simply an intrinsic property of energy, a naturally occurring automatic process.
     
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    Tony Blair. :)

    The Natural History Mueseum is a communist front...don't believe a word they say, seriously.
     
  17. Hoatzin

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    Because you didn't complain, and they did?
     
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    If the campaign stated that there is no god then it would be unjustifiable. No atheist knows that there is no god; only stupid ones think they do.

    There's a well known lager advert that describes its product as "Probably the best lager in the world". To me, that sets a clear precedent and should totally exonerate the Humanist Society of any deception. I find it pretty funny if Christian Voice haven't spotted this, but I'd imagine they're actually just seeing what they can get away with on the offchance.

    Not in this country, to my knowledge. If this story had happened in the States I wouldn't have been bothered or surprised. The fact that it's happening somewhere where religion is usually just humoured at best and at least publicly kept as far away from politics is what makes me interested.

    I do wonder how my fellow atheists feel about advertising of atheism though.
     
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    I know two thing, there is no god and you are no atheist!
    Thanks for the insult though.
     
  20. Hoatzin

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    You should turn the other cheek, kittensoft. Fortunately for you, getting one thing staggeringly wrong does not, in my eyes, totally invalidate your opinion on other things.

    Regardless of what you think you know, this campaign would be on much shakier ground if the qualifier "Probably" hadn't been added. Not that Christian Voice has ever been required to state that "God PROBABLY loves you", but then, again, no-one complained, so they got away with it.
     
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