Cynic? Realist? Hate America First?

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  1. Palven

    Palven Member

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    Below are snippets of a much longer article discussing the pros, cons,
    and legalities of political assassination followed by a few comments
    of my own about our current political situation.


    NATIONAL SECURITY:
    Is Assassination an Option?

    By Bruce Berkowitz

    Is assassination a legitimate tool of American foreign policy? If so,
    under what circumstances? By Hoover fellow Bruce Berkowitz.
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    The U.S. government adopted such a ban (on assassination) in 1976, when
    President
    Ford—responding to the scandal that resulted when the press revealed
    CIA involvement in several assassinations—issued Executive Order 11905.
    This order prohibited what it called "political assassination" and
    essentially reaffirmed an often-overlooked ban that Director of Central
    Intelligence Richard Helms had adopted for the CIA four years earlier.
    Jimmy Carter reaffirmed the ban in 1978 with his own Executive Order
    12036. Ronald Reagan went even further in 1981; his Executive Order
    12333 banned assassination in toto. This ban on assassination remains
    in effect today.

    Even so, there has been a disconnect between our policy and practice.
    The United States has tried to kill foreign leaders on several
    occasions since 1976, usually as part of a larger military operation.

    For example, in 1986, U.S. Air Force and Navy planes bombed Libya after
    a Libyan terrorist attack against a nightclub frequented
    by American
    soldiers in Berlin. One of the targets=2
    0was Muammar Qaddafi’s tent.
    During Desert Storm in 1991, we bombed Saddam Hussein’s official
    residences and command bunkers. After the United States linked Osama
    bin Laden to terrorist bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania
    in 1998, we launched a cruise missile attack at one of his bases in
    Afghanistan.

    In each case, U.S. officials insisted that our forces were merely
    aiming at "command and control" nodes or at a building linked to
    military operations or terrorist activities. In each case, however, the
    same officials admitted off the record that they would not have been
    upset if Qaddafi, Saddam, or bin Laden had been killed in the process.

    More recently, according to press reports, presidents have also
    approved so-called lethal covert operations—operations in which there
    is a good chance that an unfriendly foreign official might be killed.
    For example, the press reported a CIA-backed covert operation to topple
    Saddam in 1996 that probably would have killed him in the process,
    given the record of Iraqi leadership successions (no one has left
    office alive). After the September 11 terrorist strikes on New York and
    Washington, former Clinton officials leaked word to reporters that the
    CIA had trained Pakistani commandos in 1999 to snatch bin Laden.

    According to the Church Committee investigations of the 1970s, the CIA
    supported assassins who killed Patrice Lumumba of the Congo in201961
    and repeatedly tried to assassinate Fidel Castro betw
    een 1961 and 1963.
    In addition, American officials were either privy to plots or
    encouraged coups that caused the death of a leader (Rafael Trujillo of
    the Dominican Republic in 1961, Ngo Dinh Diem of South Vietnam in 1963,
    General René Schneider of Chile in 1970, and, later, President Salvador
    Allende in 1973). And, as noted, in recent years the United States has
    tried to do away with Qaddafi, Saddam, and bin Laden.

    The complete article above can be found on the web.

    It should also be noted that the CIA and British MI 6 orchestrated the
    coup of the newly democratically elected leader of Iran in 1953 (google
    Operation Ajax) and that Christian preacher Pat Robertson recently
    called for the assassination of Bolivian leader Hugo Chavez, and that
    Israel, with US approval, systematically kills Arab political leaders.
    What is most interesting is the schizophrenic reaction to these
    activities by the US public and the media. On the one hand it is
    proclaimed that US foreign policy is all sweetness and light, and on
    the other hand the public glorifies James Bond-like heros in the movies
    played by
    Bruce Willis types; and Navy Seals, CIA special operations
    agents, and other shadowy government employees authorized to commit
    murder. A large part of the US public supports covert operations and
    double-talkers like Oliver North and Elliot Abrams who enable the
    most egregious of these operations
    while telling Congress, (wink, wink)
    that they do not exist.
    What has brought this to mind recently is the number of letters
    to newspapers saying that the Bush legacy is that "he kept us safe".
    These writers do not seem to care that his legacy could also be "he
    gave us disinformation". Not only did he provide us with
    disinformation about weapons in Iraq and the state of the US economy,
    but he and Condoleeeza Rice continue to state that Hamas orchestrated a
    coup in Palestine, while a simple web check will show that it won a
    convincing victory in democratic parliamentary elections there only
    three years
    ago. I am reminded of the joke where a lady finds her husband in bed
    with another woman and yells "You cheater!" and he says "Who are you
    going to believe, me or your lying eyes?" The American public seems to
    be able to dissociate- George Washington didn't lie, American
    presidents don't lie. Politicians lie. George Bush doesn't lie, or if
    he does, he does it to keep us safe.
    Is it being cynical to say that the US doesn't have the same
    government that it's
    founding fathers created, or is this just realism? Or is it just that
    the game of Empire,
    where you kill those top generals and political leaders that you can't
    buy, has not
    really changed in centuries, and I've only just noticed that fact?
     
  2. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Israel has a government policy of assassination.

    It has not made them any safer.

    I would have sent an assassin to Saddam rather than overthrow the nation itself. The fact that we didn't means our military has another purpose in Iraq.



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  3. Beckner420

    Beckner420 troll

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    mmm, very true.
     
  4. Palven

    Palven Member

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    Maybe I should be a Junior Minister of Misinformation, if not intentional disinformation--Evo Morales is President of Bolivia. Hugo Chavez is President of Venezuela. Rev. Pat Robertson would probably like to see them both murdered, but if attempts on their lives by US Special Ops failed, like they did with Castro, maybe they would have sent an Oswald to take out Bush. Gee, maybe assassinating foreign leaders isn't such a bad idea after all.
     
  5. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Killin' is murder.
     

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