Datura

Discussion in 'Exotic Psychedelic Plants' started by Stephæ, Oct 14, 2008.

  1. SG69

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    I've eaten some Datura seeds before, gave me a body high. I wouldn't recommend a large dose, I ate 15 seeds and it made me feel relaxed. Look up moon lilly/Datura on erowid, it doesn't seem to be too mind and soul friendly.
     
  2. moomooman

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    im gunna eat some seeds right now cause i have no diphenhydramine for my allergies. im gunna eat probably like 5- 15, and they're not even the black ones. datura is my favorite medicine cause i can get it for free. i love plants.
     
  3. Omacatl

    Omacatl Senior Member

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    datura can kill you or cause permanent psychosis.


    have fun.
     
  4. moomooman

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    oh wow. no way. NONE of us knew that. thats breaking news. thanks for your life saving help and concern. i tend to forget that most natural medicines are also poisons. crap, what a pickle i would've been in.
     
  5. Omacatl

    Omacatl Senior Member

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    shut up. your just a child craving attention anyways. 5-15 seeds? at this time of year?
    :rolleyes:

    give me a break. weak shit. yeah eat a very tiny dose when the plant is dead.real balls there.

    you have no idea what the fuck you are touching on, do you? this stuff is not simply a toxic poison, thats just the plant on a superficial level.its something completely other.... it warrants respect and caution that someone as immature as you has no capability of bringing to the table. keep fucking with it. you are going to see what i was talking about. if there is such a thing as hell, this plant definitely would know the way.
     
  6. PeaceAndRasta

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    when i done brugns., it was nothing like what i thought it will be. u cant imagine at all.
    it impossible to imagine how its like.. its weird.
    ive done brug. twice. and never again.. or maybe once ..
    i really dont know, but i think that datura is more fucked up in the bad way. i mean less psychedelic and more mind controlling..
     
  7. stalk

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    Brugmansia will soon do you.
    I warned you, Rasta.
     
  8. moomooman

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    dude, ive had a relationship with datura for a few years now. i use it as a medicine, not to get high. who said i was trying to show balls by eating it? your bitch brain did, not me. i clearly said im using it as a diphenhydramine substitute. if knowing and understanding a plant and how to use it properly is immature, then i guess you got me pegged. if i was trying to get "high" i would eat the black seeds, not my yellow ones. like i said, i love plants. i understand the things i love. so fuck you, right up the ass, with something hard and sand papery.
     
  9. Omacatl

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    bullshit.

    you dont smoke something like its tobacco(see your post earlier in this thread) and call it a medicine. its fine you don't need to convince me. i frankly don't care what your relationship is with this plant.

    maybe when you have your retarted little deathmatch with your friend, you know, the one you said you would take a bunch of drugs for? maybe then you will just go into a grand mal seizure suffer severe brain damage and then wake up in the hospital with a catheter in your penis. then you can come talk to me about solanaceous herbs being 'medicine'.
     
  10. PeaceAndRasta

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    i appreciated your warnings, and i was kind of in a desperate mood, and i felt ready, (not) it was after an insane trip of nutmeg, and i was desperate after i got caught for a shit load of stuff,
    but, i took your warnings in mind and only tried a little..

    and im not planning on ever doin it again, even though i felt it for only one night. (twice)

    man, u helped fix my head in good ways in the past. i had everything wrong, and i thank u a lot!
    happy holidays bro! :cheers2:
     
  11. moomooman

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    how would i wake up from death? cause thats the goal of the death match, to be dead at the end. i smoke weed like tobacco and call it medicine. but when i smoke datura, its just because i like to. i prefer to take it as a tea for medicine. and just so you know, some solanaceae plants (a rather large family of plants) are food. i guess you didnt know it, but a lot of things turn from medicine to poison when not used properly.
     
  12. Omacatl

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    i was referring to the familiar "nightshade" portion of that family that includes datura, mandrake, belladona, silverleaf nightshade ect.

    and i think you have it quite backwards. this particular set of herbs is toxic until either extracted and cleaned into a pharmaceutical grade product that can be accurately dosed with a very precise miligram scale, or their active constituents synthesized in a laboratory. im not saying smoking it is dangerous, but the risks associated with oral ingestion are far greater than just physical harm. i don't think it's wise to make posts that advertise the plant as safe or even fit for recreational use, you never know what idiot could be reading and decide to go gnaw on a few datura blossoms.
     
  13. PeaceAndRasta

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    my friend told me that a friend of his mom had a son that almost died of that shit .. he went to the hospital and shit..
     
  14. moomooman

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    nightshade includes tomato, potato, and even chiles i think. and i never made posts saying that its safe or advertised it in that light. except probably for smoking it. i have made posts, (somewhere, i dont think in this particular one) saying that it is safe to smoke it. nothing will happen to you as long as you make sure the leaves are dry. you do gotta be careful when handleing the fresh plant though, cause i remember seeing this medical special on abc that was some kind of mystery diagnoses thing, thats not what it was called though. they had a story about a lady who had a reaction from just handleing the flowers all day. the plant is not a recreation plant, i could swear i said i use it for medicinal properties. medicine, recreation; not the same in my book, unless you enjoy medical practice of course. doing an extraction like that with datura would result in a very concentrated poison, a lot more dangerous than a diluted poison if you ask me, especially since the chemicals are active in the micro gram range.
     
  15. ippi

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    I have taken Datura like four times now, also I did combinate it with DXM!!????????

    Well, I think Datura is really exiting experience and off course really intense... It is really hard, dangerous and still it is always rewarding. I like these nightmare hallucinations. But when you get in to a good feeling with Datura. "Get comfortable" with it. Datura can show its bright and beautiful side... It is one of the most beautiful experiences what I have had...

    But still. You who try this plant, be carefull... Datura is a beautiful friend, but deadly enemy.
     
  16. klondike_bar

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    Im sorry, so thats a....:

    son of a friend of a mom of a friend?

    isnt that like a whole level sketchier than the 'friend of a friend"? :p

    seriously though, dont screw around with datura. maybe if someone knowledged was with you to guide you, but even then its highly unsafe.

    it is NOT a legal high that you can play with just because the cops cant get you
     
  17. Omacatl

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    maybe he doesn't directly know anyone stupid enough to eat datura. such folks are rare and usually aren't around long.
     
  18. Silverbackman

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    And speaking of smoking datura, which has been brought up a couple times in this thread (I think I made a thread about it too a few months ago).....well this is supposedly how the hindu sadhus use datura....mixing it with bud and toking. Some report a datura stone from mixing it with weed.

    But even by yourself.....it doesn't seem like datura leaves and such should be too dangerous as long as you don't smoke too much. Might make weed all the more mystical.

    What are some of your experiences of smoking datura, with or without pot?
     
  19. moomooman

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    i smoke it kinda regularly. it has really slight effects by itself, but makes for a pleasant smoke. it is good with weed, but mixing it with tobacco is where the mysticism is at. they are each others opposites kinda. they both work on acetylcholine receptors. tobacco, with its nicotine, is an agonist to the nicotinic ones, and the atropine and scopolamine in datura are antagonists to the muscarinic ones. they are like yin and yang to each other, like each others other half so to say.
     
  20. Lynnbrown

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    I've never smoked datura - which I call jimson weed around here, and angel trumpet being brugmansia - but I've physically handled the live green plant.

    I've been both stupid and careless - once (intentionally) just a "taste" off my fingers after transplanting or moving and another time or two by not
    THOUROUGHLY washing my hands after use, and smoking or getting hair out of my face and literally getting my finged(s) in my mouth.
    I know, gross and TMI - but I lived to regret it all times. Foxglove is just as bad or worse (used to make digitalis).
    All of a sudden for me, quick my head is beating, I'm sweating, vomiting, etc. Since I have done landscape type work, each year I fool with them I always say I'm going to watch it!

    That being said, I cannot imagine intentionally "munching" on Anything to do with those beautiful but easily deadly plants nor smoking it.
    Maybe my system is just super allergic to those alkaloids; but, I still gotta be a mother hen and say don't do it.:)
     

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