Some questions and propositions(please read)

if your a real beliver please read

I recently started beliving in jesus christ. But still have some questions.

I dont understand how the bible is saying one thing and science is proving another. The bible says man started about 8000 years ago but science is finding evidence saying otherwise. I dont understand anciet civilizations around the world that archeologist prove existed even before man was made in the bible. Do you get where im going with this? Im not into figuring every little thing out because it would be dumb to think our race doesnt have an omega such as god. Its just that alott of things dont add up when your comparing to what the bible is saying and science proves different.

The only explanations I can come up with is
1) Gods days in genesis were actually 100 of years at a time.
this makes since because then you can kind of understand that the world had time to settle before people were just thrown in it. It also helps us explain how scientist come up with the world being older then what the bible states.
You could figure that god just put all his "days" of work into six consective periods and decided to finish it up with a day of relaxation and no observation for what to do on another day.
2) After gods week was over did he go back to work the next monday? Maybe he decided to help his people build such things of anciet times. Figure back then people were much more spirtuall and belived in gods power to do things such as move 100ton rocks into formation.
3)He could have also decided to create other races and species.
He is god, he did make the universe it would be dumb to belive god just stopped toying with the universe and was just happy with us. Especially since he was shamed with us. This would help us understand existence of aliens and life on other plantets. Figure scientiest know that there are several other galaxies. Ya know god could be working on those two.


The old testment is the only book that proves our earths history, but what if the roman goverment or any other goverment burned books telling of things like ive stated above. What if the old testment was composed of hundreds of books more like an ecyopedia. Reason we will never know is because the more information that proves god the less power man has on earth.

God has to be true especially when you consider the dead sea scrolls finding. All the miracles god did really existed it was wrote 6000 years ago and preserved through these findings.

Im still confused with something but ill let this portion be read before i continue to mumble on maybe ill get some more answers to ask better questions.

if your a real beliver please respond

 

I'll answer #3...

In my current knowledge, this universe (earth realm and its cosmos) is just for this lonely planet which has all sorts of living creatures. But do not think it is no other realms with living creatures.

Infinitly is realms for great golf distance between what is meant distant from one another.

Why pack a single realm with more distant than give each an own realm?

On another note, this here realm is a light hell. Why give every kind distant a fair share of a light hell? I tell you, when certain pass away from this earth realm, then they enter their own individuality where their kind there have in no wise been in a light hell. Why? Just so certain which pass away get back up with the highly pure. Examples are: Pure women which never touched any other man. Pure women which never gotten phychologically messed with at any time. Basically, you know how you don't want B.S. to carry over with those which are supposed to be the women for you. You know how you favor your women to have never been messed up in any past time ever or put through any trouble or pain or B.S. ordeals (such as even a tooth ache or a rash or a cold).

In other words, certain here in this light hell are only here for war work. No actual women is here from our seperate individuality places which are elsewhere. The only women here are either the beast or an non-living, unmanned automation. You'd be surprized how no God will put actual beauties anywhere near an non-pure place. Only a coward will put their actual, authentic meant, living women on the front line against the beast kinds out here. Here is a war against the beast, for Man which agree for such.

As for # 2, you should think just on when is it present or how shorter and quicker is present over, say, a millasec. You'd be surprize how certain things (large, medium, small; complex, simple; etc.) may exist as quick as present is.

O yeah, if you believe in Jesus, then you should know the true thief. The true theif's hand is quicker than the eye.

 

Yeah. I guess you can consider me a believer.

Really, I kinda think you just have to go for it. Science is going to continue to prove all of this wrong. It's all going to come down to it being a matter of faith. Can you believe when everything points against that which you've chosen to confide in?

And also, if I were you, I would try and get ahold of a copy of 'Issac Asimov's Guide To The Bible'. It's just the old testament, but it does discuss a lot of the historic elements of the bibles, and stuff like that.

 

I have another theory that supports your last sentence.
Because god didnt wont his image to be dumbfounded forever, perhaps he aloud wisdom to some. Most who come up with these crazy things apply wisdom but are forsaken with the modern day devil and loose faith over money or any other things taken past moderation. God aloud these things to happen to his people to provide temptaion to his real belivers as a test. I understand the bible says our body is a temple but i think the temple is really the soul. God doesnt care about these bodies because he says they will be worn out if you spread his name. He gave every soul the chance of salvation but some give it up and sale there soul to the devil. Which inturn gives us a test of our faith. Will we belive what man is saying about this earth or stick with faith in god.

But honestly the biggest thing that makes since is why wouldnt there be a god! to belive this world happened by chance well is retarted. I mean i guess it could have happen but either way man spawned of another man. Just because one man had a great man doesnt mean his father or that mans son is worth a shit. there for man is no greater then another man. I hands down praise the lord for he is the only one that can drop man of outstanding health to his knees with a heartattack.

And signs realated guy...you might be a good person but i think you over anlyize things or something...ive seen a couple post of yours and there just crazy and hard to understand. but to each is own....please though i am not talking bad though

 

Yeah. I actually just got back from church. And I was thinking.

Christianity is actually a lot like Buddhism. Like, the whole goal is to clear your life of things that will harm it, and see the emptiness in life on earth.

I also realized just how greedy God appears to be. If the message was correctly interpreted by the pastor, and then passed on correctly, God basically just put us on earth so we can worship him. And I don't really understand that. I mean, it's said that we were created in his image, and I guess that kinda explains why the human race is such a greedy one. But like, I've always kinda thought that there had to be more to life then just worshiping something. Like, what's the point if he just threw us down here to praise him? And doesn't that also make him a horrible person, because he put some down here to worship him, but when he created them, he made it so that they would live a bad life, and then have to suffer in eternity. And they don't really have anything they can do about it.

I don't understand God. :/

 

There is another option besides either scientific concordism and the anti science approach.

I believe in evolutionary creation, the idea that God created and designed the universe and all that is in it through an ordained and sustained natural set of processes (including evolution). Genesis does not reveal any scientific truths, but theological (metaphysical truths).

http://www.ualberta.ca/~dlamoure/beyond.html

 

Oh, yeah, I've definitely thought upon that theory too. Like, God kinda put everything in place and then let it run it's course?

 

Do you honestly think your God "doesnt care about these bodies", despite that they may not be the most important thing from our perspective as humans (maybe the Soul would be) but honestly if you believe he created it why would he care that less about that aspect of his creation.

Now Soul, you say "some give it up to sale", not personally attacking you or anyone but according to your doctrine aren't we ALL SINNERS, isn't that why you would say we ALL need God? So to say it's a test that others "sell out" i think is invalid because what about ourselves selling out to the "devil" as you put it( I think evil doings would fit better, but that's your quote)

This part is a bit confusing, "...the biggest thing that makes since(sense) is why wouldnt there be a god!(God) To belive this world happened by chance well is retarted." How is this the biggest thing that makes sense? If God is man, like you "belive" then who created Gods matter? You speak as if he is constructed like us, speak of his feelings, intentions and desires as if he is sitting on a throne watching us right now. IF he is who created that matter?

I wouldn't recommend contradicting yourself right after calling everyone else retards.

There's some truth in this, no man is better than no man. Jesus said some things that could help with this, "Love others as I have loved you" "love your enemies" and "love your neighbor as yourself"

I contradict the feelings possesed in this, that is if I am percieving them correctly. This is faith based on Fear, I have an itching notion given to me by your prophet that God is based on LOVE. Jesus said his greatest commandment was to LOVE. If this was most important to him and He and the fateher were one as it is written then a simple hypothesis would be that God is Love.

Hope you can find answers to the questions you still have

 

Ha. So many colors. So hard to read. Luckily, I found that if you highlight all the text, it changes it to one color. And that helps. I think you're right about the whole Love thing. I agree that love is a pretty key factor in almost anything.

 

Not quite. What you seem to be suggesting here (and what you thought I meant) is Deism.

In Deistic Evolution, God creates the universe (sometimes life) without the expressed purpose of life evolving into humans. In Evolutionary Creation (Theistic evolution, BioLogos et cetera) God not only created the universe and its Laws, but in creation there was the purpose and plan that would bring about humans in His form/likeness. Deism is most commonly dysteleological whilst evolutionary creation is teleological (from a Christian standpoint).

I would caution against saying that God created the first cell because that would be using a God of the Gaps argument.

 

Explain that. My dear chap. Why can man be dropped out of Creation when the age of Reason shows such remarkable resiliency to justify infinity inward (infinitesimal) and outward (infinite). How can there be that remarkable observer of a cateloged system, who is not part of the system still is has the analagous featured classes about It?

I have to believe that Man is something of only the lacking emotional Need in the explanation. Emotion makes the animals look brighter. Are you sure? Not being sure makes that for Theism, to me, some sort of Pantheism.

 

wtf I typed quite a bit explaining my self for such a horriable post that didnt make since apologizing for my blurted mind. But somehow my page refreshed after clicking reply and it deleated everything. Im just gonna keep it short this time. Ive got to get better at my post I ususally just reply not paying attention to what im saying, scrambling everything together to where it confuses people. After re-reading it myself it even confuses my self. Sorry.
I just have so many theories that have come to mind here in such a short time but I have no one to share them with, when I do I just mush them all together theory with theory but neither one of them go with each other and both of them explain something having nothing to do with the original topic. sorry. bare with me

But to answer where you said you was most confused with

It takes more faith to belive our world happened by chance then to belive our race answers to a superior greater then man.
This makes most since to me because scientiest cant prove earths greatest mystery how did this world begin.
In continuince with the man is no better then any other man, I offer this. I appreciate the fact of knowing my father, disregarding the one of biologically was a supernatural being who does miracles involving both nature and humans. Rather than just being happy with beliving my birth father was my omega.

Please disreagard my second post and tell me what you think of my first three ideas from my first post. The second reply I critisize my self for not making much since.

 

Could the Bible truly explain that? It is introducing the reader into the psychology of Man. Man's nature is to balance with the scientifically observed Nature. But really observing nature would just make man feel His purpose for observation, the Man of dominion over what Nature was for Him in the first place.

But this is a fixing of the problem of why science even in the time of the early Hebrews would wish to have control and solved expectation over the heavens, skies , and development on the rocks. In the end the dominion argumant was just to make the balance of Man available to concerns about the follies of fatal nature. So man at least perceives the nature around him in balances of their own creation by God.

That's all which God wanted to do for man; the rest worked out for the Justification of love in balancing acts for the eternity of succeeding. That there are differing racial natures to our emotions even in the World was but the struggle of the dominion against the Balance.

Emotions had moral motives, but how can this occur in Nature? Success was without motive; that is also the view of Pantheism.

 

I honestly have no idea what you were writing here.

 

I refer you to the "the Great Chain of Being" by Copleston, or by Lovejoy. A lot of these ideas have their falling into a lost cause of understanding the meaningful search for why the Christian development occured the way it did.

The last great philosopher before the age of mediocrity was Nietzsche; we no longer understand the man's relation to the universe.

I believe the Deism you were meaning was such a misunderstanding. I'm not claiming to do better.