So I've experimented with magic mushrooms and morning glory seeds both twice and I'm kind of looking into DXM and codeine with marijuana and anyway I've a few questions I'd like to ask about these drugs. Would DXM be considered entheogenic? Which cough medicines are safe to use with DXM? What other drugs mixes well with DXM? What are some similarities between a classical psychedelic experience and DXM? Is codeine safe? How potent is codeine in comparison with morphine or heroin? What other drugs does codeine mix well with?
in high doses i definitely consider DXM to be entheogenic. at the third and fourth plateaus, DXM can facilitate visions, hallucinations, and dreamlike states that are often considered to be shamanic. the first two plateaus are definitely more recreational, although these are worth visiting as well, just for a fun night. especially when mixed with weed if you want to calculate your doses for various plateaus go here: http://ledahosting.com/~ahughes/DXM/dxmcalc.htm use DXM-ONLY containing brands. stay miles away from coricidin, and make sure there's no guafinasen in syrups you use. i usually buy an 8 oz. CVS maximum strength bottle- the entire thing contains 708mg of DXM with no other active ingredients, and it's the cheapest deal per dose. if you don't have a CVS around check other pharmacies for the generic alternative to Robitussin max strength. really the only important thing is that Dextromethorphan is the only active ingredient. the product will say either "Dextromethorphan hydrobromide" which is what most people get, or "Dextromethorphan Polistirex"- this is just DXM Hbr in time release form- don't get this unless you want a realllly long trip. weed is incredible with DXM. this is the only combination i've tried, but i've also heard that there are good synergetic effects with psilocybin mushrooms and nitrous oxide. DXM is a dissociative- instead of tuning your body in to its senses and opening your awareness like classical psychedelics, dissociatives shut down your sensory awareness and isolate you from your surroundings. on wikipedia there's a sentence i found to explain the difference very well- something to the effect of :"dissociatives are like the death side of psychedelics (with themes of isolation, etc) and classical psychedelics are like the birth/life side (expansion, awareness, etc)." codeine is relatively safe. codeine is not very potent, and is considered one of the weaker opiates- often, doses run higher than 100mg in recreational use. can't speak for other drugs it mixes well with, i've only done codeine a few times and never with any other drugs. i'd imagine weed would be decent with it.
A good 75% of people who try DXM, hate it. You will either love DXM to the very core, or you will despise it, and never try it again. I hated it. You might enjoy it. Start small of course, around 300mg, to get a feel for it. I wouldn't consider it an Entheogen, just my opinion though. It's a dissociative drug...it's in the same class of drugs as PCP and Ketamine. Neither of which I would call entheogenic. When I think of Entheogenic, I think of psychedelics, not dissociatives.
Yeah, but I heard about a guy named John Lilly who used ketamine in sensory deprivation tanks and found the experiences mind-expanding. CherokeeMist, what are the DXM plateaus and what doses unlock them, by the way that dosage calculator seems pretty cool, are there any other substance dosage calculators that you know of?
well i can give you an overview of the plateaus (from The Dextroverse- http://www.dextroverse.org/whatis.html) and i've added the brackets; what dose it takes to acheive each of them is dependent on your size. enter in your info on that calculator and your dose ranges for each of the plateaus will come up. • 1st Plateau: 1.5-2.5 mg/kg This is the weakest level. This feels slightly intoxicating, a little light headed. Some music euphoria is noticable [i've also noticed that there's no sedative effect here, in fact it's a little stimulating for me... your body also feels very "boucy" and light] • 2nd Plateau: 2.5-7.5 mg/kg This level is often compared to being stoned and drunk at the sametime. When this might seem true, there is also a noticably strong "mental" high also. You can have trouble talking with slurring, and can have a hard time carrying on an indepth conversation, because your short-term memory can be temporarily impared. And occasionally you can have mild hallucinations. [definitely a "stoning" effect, you get way more lazy than on the first plateau] • 3rd Plateau: 7.5-15 mg/kg This level has strong intoxications and hallucinations. Things can become very confusing as your thinking processes are disturbed. You can sometimes daze-off into your own world, and get lost in your own mind. Trips in this plateau can sometimes be unpleasant. [i've done this twice- the first time i had incredibly realistic images and intricate storylines in my head, much like dreaming except a bit more vivid, but i could open my eyes at any time. second time was unpleasant- hard to explain, i jsut felt a ton of fear and panic, very typical of a psychedelic freakout. my sense of self was shattered] • 4th Plateau: +15 mg/kg This is the strongest level. This is a sub-anesthetic dose, and can be compared to a high dose of Ketamine. Your mind and body become seperated at this level and it can become dangerous psychologically, and physically. Personally I say that you should never have to go this high, it can be very dangerous. But whatever you do, NEVER go past 20 mg/kg (about 2000mg for a 220lb person), this can become very toxic and kill you. [never been here, but maybe some other members can tell you more about it] i am not aware of a dosage calculator for any other substance- DXM is very unique in that it can be broken down into distinguishable "plateaus", and also because doses are SO size-dependent.
www.third-plateau.org Here is another site with some good DXM info. I used to use it back in my DXM days, so I dunno if it's outdated, but it came in handy for me. Also, there is always trusty old Erowid.
So how long ago did people, druggie teenagers in general, discover the psychedelic and dissociative qualities of DXM?
It appeared on shelves in the 50s. By the 70s it was already being abused enough that some brands were pulled from pharmacies. It's been around about as long as lsd.
Also, you can buy pure DXM powder, you that way you don't have to listen to people tell you that you aren't taking a "real" drug. Capsule it up and give it to them, then let them decide if it's real.
Online, I am not posting sources...mainly because I don't have any anymore, since I don't do DXM. Do some searching, you will find some. It's legal, so it's not all underground like research chemicals. It's relatively cheap, like 5 dollars a gram if I remember?
i feel like it would be a pain in the ass to get that shit from the internet probably ask you a bunch of questions
Okay, I have this planned out, I'm going to try DXM on Saturday, and if I can I'll see if I can get a gram of herb to lift my mood if needed.
dood just got ot CVS or Walgreens or Rite Aid or sumthing like that, and buy/take (im not promoting shoplifting) zicam cough max cough spray, it will make you trip, if your a big dood take 2 of them, get a gram of weed and an ipod full of good music, it will bea good trip
Actually, my Mom already got a bottle of NyQuil, with only DXM and sodium dauraxyl, the tricky part will be not taking too much before she notices and picking the right time so I don't end up talking to her while high.
PBjube3 is right DO NOT use Nyquil. Zicam and Delsym are the best because they contain only DXM and flavor. Also you can look into the extraction process used to get that pure DXM powder. Dont buy the powder off the net, carries way way to many risks like you dont know if its real or pure. You dont know who is watching your use on the internet. goodluck bud. :cheers2:
what do you think you will find in dxmcodeine land..dont take coughsyrup unless your sick dont take codeine unless you have pain...period
