WOW UNBELIEVABLE!! the rumors are true! 50 year old recommisioned by the military!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by hippiehillbilly, Jan 3, 2009.

  1. Rudenoodle

    Rudenoodle Minister of propaganda Lifetime Supporter

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    A brigade in the Army can almost be looked at as a town, and within a town there are many different jobs and activities that need to be done.

    For example all Brigades must have soldiers who MOS is to make food, serve and M.P's ect ect.

    So just because he is in air defense don't mean he's firing rockets he could be a a mechanic of some kind.

    I think the 31st air is from Fort Bliss I cant remember.

    If your really curious about what the deal with his guy is I would start with his then current rank followed by his MOS.
     
  2. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    i realize that but what i am saying is i doubt he has a skill that cant be filled by recruitment.(granted its pure speculation and i know of no way to find out his mos ) im sure if he at one time had a specialized skill that technology has now made that skill obsolete if not why is he just now being called up? why wasnt he called up when stop gap measures were all in the news a couple years ago?the supporting roles of the brigade should easily be filled by new recruits.if not why not use other stop gap measures?

    from what i gather this is the third line of stop gap measures for the military.
    i just dont see where there is a need to call a middle aged man up when recruitment is meeting its quota..

    it makes no sense..
     
  3. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Old Soldiers Back On Duty
    Bob Simon Reports On Former GIs Being Ordered To Suit Up For Iraq
    July 3, 2005

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    Chief Warrant Officer Margaret Murray did her active duty back in the '60s. (CBS)

    Found this while looking further into this story.
    lol.

    I can't remember if this has been mentioned in any of the articles, or by any others here, but, he is an Officer - his Military Occupational Specialty is linguistics and inteligence.
    True? that's just what I have read (Democratic Underground and Buzzflash.)
     
  4. flmkpr

    flmkpr Senior Member

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    sorry gotta give you shit it looks like a woman to me! peace!
     
  5. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    It is a woman.
    I know.
    I can just about distinguish between male and female.:rolleyes:
    I found that OTHER story while looking into THIS story (like I thought I said.)
    It just made me laugh (I don't know why - perhaps the expression on her face!)...and it was kinda connected to the current story we are talking about now.
    Perhaps I was not perfectly clear in my previous post, it was fairly early in the morning.
     
  6. flmkpr

    flmkpr Senior Member

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    ya i was just messin with ya! but i do think its kinda odd as hhb said to be called at that age and after so long! i wonder if any of these peeps being recalled had any benefits all these yrs?
     
  7. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    i had not seen his MOS ,if it is indeed linguistics i can see why he could be called up.
    however it still seems like he would have been called up long before now,and once again,if they are meeting there recruitment quotas,why is there a need??

    hell it just doesnt all add up to me.well until i put my tinfoil hat on,then it all makes perfect sense..:rolleyes:
     
  8. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    HOW would it make sense?
    He apparently has skills the DoD want and they are asking to take advantage of them, using a well trodden apparatus.
    It does seem now that most of the combat initiatives are over and more training is apparently needed (for the Iraqi forces), his skills are of use.
    Ofcourse, his skills ultimately have always been usefull, but if you read the link you provided the DoD do not work like our minds would.
    They need a specific skill, they go seek that out!
    I thought your question was: Why has he been called up?
    Ultimately it seems because the DoD wanted him.
    Simple as that.
     
  9. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    maybe when you are approaching middle age you will be able to grasp where i am coming from a little better,until then i dont see how i can articulate my minds eye any clearer so, ill just leave it at that..
     
  10. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    So, do you think at a certain age people should be left to pasture?
    They should not be asked to serve?
    They ulimately are not capable?
    Please do enlighten me.
    Reading your posts it does seem you think this dude has nothing to offer!
    He apparently does, so why should he not be put back in service?
    Please do try and explain yourself, it would help.
    I do know about the ageing process (i'm not 19 anymore.)
     
  11. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    for the fifth time in this thread,:rolleyes:

    i believe that if there quotas are being met that there should be no need to reenlist middle aged and older civilians who havent worn a uniform in decades. you cant tell me the woman in the pic you posted was able to pass the physical fitness requirements that a new recruit would be required to.
    i highly doubt that the man in the OP would be able to.

    the fact is its a young mans game and past your prime all things begin to be not quite what they once were including your mental capabilities.
    your just not as good as you used to be..

    once again,if they are meeting there quotas then it makes no sense to drag a middle aged person out of the moth balls.

    unless of course they know that soon they are going to need all the young bodies elsewhere and are calling up all these old farts to put in positions of training etc.(as you said) so as to be able to deploy the younger bodies to the new battle front..

    which is IMO the only reason it makes sense..
     
  12. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    I do understand what you have said previously.
    It might be a good idea to see if all the quotas are being met, not merely just men/women in uniform.
    There are plenty of skills that take time to get and it would seem easier to get those skills from a pool already out there, than try and train people from scratch.
    It might be a good idea to find out what the lady did achieve on her re-elistment, rather than cast her aside so easily.
    It seems to come down to ability.
    I can't tell you she passed the physical because I do not know (I imagine she did.)
    I also imagine physical ability is on a gradient.
    But, I can say (like you) I doubt she did not not pass her physical.


    You are an ageist discriminatory small minded bigot - it seems.

    Like I said, i could go look at the minutia of this and post why older people are being called back up.
    But, I do think it would serve you better to read it all yourself and perhaps remove age from the equation.

    The miniscule amount of older people being recalled prevents me from thinking that is the case.

    Fair enough, but, open your mind a little more IMO.
     
  13. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    I'm trying to understand your opinion but it seems to rely on a persons age not actual ability.
     
  14. BraveSirRubin

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    He didn't retire, he was making money off of it, sucks for him. A 50 year old guy can still do a lot on the field, 50 ain't old. It's not like they'll have him running around the entire place.

    Should have retired if he didn't want to go anywhere.

    It's as simple as that.
     
  15. Olympic-Bullshitter

    Olympic-Bullshitter Banned

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    Rumors and stories don't begin on their own. There's always a shred of truth behind them that generates them. There was talk of bolts of lightning, red eyes that could start a fire with a quick glance, a forked tail, and that small, goatlike horns sprouted atop his head.
     
  16. Number6

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    I saw this coming a long time ago. They can call me back if they want to, I have taken steps to make sure my conscientious objector (CO) status can be proven quickly and easily. They can still recall me, but there is no way they would ever send a CO to Iraq or Afghanistan, worst case scenario is, I spend a couple of years on KP before they figure out it was a waste of time to recall me.
     
  17. Stoned Philosopher

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    thats bullshit. We should be ENDING this war, not asking 50 year old out of shape men to risk their lives now that they have a family. what happened to ending the war?
     
  18. Stoned Philosopher

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    and odon. i agree. you cannot take age out of the equation. 50 is old when compared with a young adult. your out of your mind to say age is irrelevant in this situation.
     
  19. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    I THINK I have said that it depends on the role these ladies and gents are going to be doing. IMHO you can take age out of the equation if they are no more than back room boys and girls - not involved in fighting.
    There will be many out there that are over 35 and pushing 50 who are in support roles. Judging by this chaps record and the current state of affairs in Iraq... it looks like he will be involved in training.

    If indeed he will be joining 18 year olds in fighting...then that sucks for him. I very much doubt that will be the case.

    We have to remember this was part of the deal he struck...even if he seems at odds with it now.
     
  20. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    my dad is laughing his ass off at these guys for not going fully into retirement.
     
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