Religion is for cowards and pedophiles of childrens minds

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by Rudenoodle, Jan 3, 2009.

  1. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    Is it obvious why each writer chose to mention one and only one of those three things? And how does that sit with your previous assertions that one can only "misinterpret" the Bible as a result of not going in with an open mind (which, I will remind you, is not the same as going in WANTING it to be true)?
     
  2. Hoatzin

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    Also also, how come there's a ban on proselytising based solely on Bible quotes in the Christianity forum but not in any of the others?
     
  3. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    A better try would have been to do with the date/time of Jesus execution...

    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/passover_meal.html
     
  4. Okiefreak

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    Also, how did a thread entitled "Religion is for cowards and pedophiles..." morph into a debate over Jesus' last words?
     
  5. ODB

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    Sorry about that I was trying to prove a point to OWB and he started to argue.
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    The only reason I used the word obvious was that in Matt 27:46-51 "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" is said to have happened before he drank the sour wine and at John 19:30 it says that Jesus said "It is finished” after drank the sour wine; so it just seemed obvious, at least to me, that just reading the scriptures shows that this is no contradiction.

    As for “Is it obvious why each writer chose to mention one and only one of those three things?”; no, the reason for that is not so obvious.


    I don’t remember saying it exactly this way and I’m sorry if I did.

    Open mind or not the Bible is easily misinterpreted and even more so if you read it wanting it to say what you want it to say. In fact it’s commonly understood that you can get the Bible to support any belief you want including atheism.

    But what I’ve been trying to say, albeit you would probably agree clumsily, is that the Bible has to be understood as a whole and if you misinterpret any part of the Bible then that makes other parts of the Bible not make sense and that the only way to make the whole Bible make sense is to have the proper interpretation of all it’s parts.

    Much like the crossword puzzle I mentioned earlier, if you put the wrong word in the puzzle then you can’t solve the puzzle until that word is changed and replaced with the right one.

    Likewise the Bible seems to be designed to only make complete sense when you have the right ideas, concepts or if you will, interpretations in place.
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Sorry if you felt I was arguing with you, I felt that I was merely pointing out a mistake you had made in assuming that the three scriptures that you pointed out were contradictory.

    Also what was that point you were trying to make? I guess I missed it.


    PS I’m still waiting for that proof that I don’t know what I’m talking about and you do in that Jesus is Almighty God thing.
     
  8. ODB

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    There ya go again, arguing with everyone it seems. Why try to point out the splinter in my eye when there is a log in yours......

    Although, I made no mistake in my posts. Sorry if you are unable to comprehend.
     
  9. Shatarag

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    If we create mold in our frig are we considered a god?
     
  10. Shatarag

    Shatarag Member

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    What does our own destiny have to with a god anyway.

    Oh wait your hell path to destiny is suppose to take us to our greater purpose.Right.
    If we abide by all the rules.

    Of the only beings in nature we are the only beings who are forbidden to call nature the rule.

    Is it so impossible to believe that Jesus, Alla, and Budda were all saying the same thing and that it has nothing to with religion and god but more to do with us as human beings and the importance of earth as a whole.

    What a selfish god to create a world just to destroy it.
     
  11. Shatarag

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    Maybe the fact that only one thing is mentioned because to speak of every aspect of the religion is the contradiction.

    If the basic principles of humanity were fallowed there would be no reason for religion.

    Maybe Jesus said to himself these people are to stupid and to greedy to get this without the belief of a god that was going to give them a kingdom for it.

    I have a light bill to pay and two kids to feed should I pray for it for 12 hours on my knees and give my last piece of bread to someone who refuses to work so god will fix it"eventually" or should I go to work like I'm suppose to at 10?

    Even if god does exist this so called religion we want everybody to abide by is STUPID.

    How about be human beings for once and live and let live or die and let die.

    We can build a 16 story buildings , jet airplanes, and rocket ships to the moon, but we can not get how to treat each other and only god can fix our problems.lol....lol...lol...
    lmao!!!!!

    God just sound like an excuse to be inhumane. Really.

    Okay I'm done ranting I'll shut up.:eek:
     
  12. Shatarag

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    Okay one more thing.

    If I smoke pot should I go to hell for failure to ask god to forgive me for disobeying the laws of the land?

    Should I go to hell for buying a bigger speed boat than my neighbor?

    Or should I feel stupid because that buy just helped inflate our economy causing taxes to go up for a poorer man who I now have to donate my unwanted cans to.

    Contradiction and Consequence? Hummm...
     
  13. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Nothing wrong with religion on itself but it should be to the individual to find their way in it and not forced upon them with 'words of god' and dogma's. As soon as religious persons get riled up because other people believe different things their on the wrong track in my opinion. Unfortunately some of these words of god, for example where they say to spread them and convert others are misinterpreted, taken too seriously or are indeed abused. That does of course not make every religious person a rapist of childrens minds.
    I also would like to add that the people that believe in hell and damnation have my full sympathy.
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    :smilielol5:
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    A god perhaps; the God,no.
     
  16. eyeagainsteye

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    2 scriptures before I leave

    2Peter 3:16
    speaking about these things as he does also in all [his] letters. In them, however, are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unsteady are twisting, as [they do] also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

    2 Corinthians 4:4
    among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.
     
  17. Hoatzin

    Hoatzin Senior Member

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    But you still think that there is one, and that no account is just inaccurate.




    See, this doesn't seem that different from just using it to support whatever you already believe, and I would hope that if I was God I would find a way to express myself with less of a house of cards or puzzlebox. I mean, why leave anyone in doubt about what you're saying if it's so important for them to understand?
     
  18. Hoatzin

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    Well if there's more than one god then "the God" would be a nonsense.
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    People call many things god, even their stomach but there is only one true God that created every thing.
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    How are any of the accounts inaccurate? Please tell me which one of the accounts said something untrue? Did any of them say that this was the only thing that Jesus said before he died? In any case, what we were talking about is do they contradict each other, which they obviously don't.
     

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