do you like music even if you can't understand the words?

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  1. Jaitaiyai

    Jaitaiyai Cianpo di tutti capi

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    haha I love Lagaan.
    It's got everything, the underdogs who beat the stiff upper lipped tyrants. The lovely heroine together with the main char, ignoring Elizabeth who got rejected... and Cricket!!! I was gonna post Radha Kaise Na Jale.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-VVK85Gth4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQbCe4Lv_W8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRRFzarljuc (First bollywood movie I ever watched. :eek:)
     
  2. Mountain Valley Wolf

    Mountain Valley Wolf Senior Member

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    Dance With the Devil might be the one I am talking about---sounds familiar----I can't watch YouTube right now because I am having Java problems on my computer. I can't turn it back on.

    I lived in Japan for most of the 80's and part of the 90's---I thought the Japanese rock scene was horrible. There was some innovation and good stuff---such as Yellow Magic Orchestra----but most of it lacked any creativity. One time I heard this guy playing some incredible blues music at a park where hopeful musicians would hang out waiting for talent scouts---this guy was incredible, and I even thought I should finance him. He played 3 or 4 songs, then stopped and told his friends who were off on the side, "Ok, I'm warmed up---let's play." Then he proceeded they all proceeded to play a bunch of Japanese crap rock---I couldn't believe it!

    But then a Japanese friend and hippy turned me on to Tsugaru Shamisen-----this is a style of shamisen that is an awful lot like rock----except it is several hundred years older than rock. Tsugaru is the name of a region, but it is also an old slang term for Opium. The musicians were wandering musicians who played on the streets for money. It is fast paced and requires a heavier shamisen with thicker strings to play, because they pick so hard and fast. There is one old song that I swear the beatles lifted a riff from for one of their versions of Give Me Money!

    I couldn't believe that Japan had this incredible and creative musical history, and they couldn't play crap----I wondered why they don't dig into this----well it has taken about 15 -20 years after I found it for the youth of Japan to discover it----and now they are really into it----That is the music behind those Wii commercials----you can find a lot of You-Tube stuff on it.

    One of my favorite artists is Nagayama Yoko---and especially her song Jonkara Onnabushi. The best version is the one she sings all three verses in----that one has three Tsugaru shamisen solos with her playing against two accompanying shamisens in kind of a dueling shamisens trip. These often get posted to You-Tube and then taken off due to copyright issues-----a real bummer because it is hard to get in the states----I think the dvd that it comes off of won't even play on most US dvd players.

    The song is a song of a travelling female musician who, in the cold winter, falls in love with some guy and follows him around paying her shamisen---there are several sexual references (e.g. she hasn't known 'spring' for some time---spring could be sex, or it could even be sex for money). If you are watching one of the better versions of the song---at the end she gives this seductive look into the camera as she sings that she wants you (ah ha! It was me she was singing about)

    I actually have a crush on her---back in the 80's she was a little teenager who sang pop music---I could have cared less---but she turned into a hot woman---and she has a lot of subtle sexuality about her----for example the kimono's she wears have long wings which suggests she is an unmarried maiden---yet her music, and her expressions suggest a woman wise to the ways of love-----you know----a virginal combination that is anything but virginal... (It makes me want to bring her here, put her up in an apartment---near my office where my wife would never know-----she could help pay for it by playing her shamisen on the streets-----and then I desert her when she gets pregnant, and her life is now ruined because she gave up everything for me, against the advice of her agent------she ends up a broken alcoholic living on the streets of America----and years from now her lonely forgotten grave will appear in a tv special about the sad demise of forgotten Japanese musicians... ...what a beautiful story...)
     
  3. Jaitaiyai

    Jaitaiyai Cianpo di tutti capi

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    You mean Sexy?
    Oh no wait, yeah weird. Weird was right. :leaving:


    Mountain Valley Wolf, I get what you're saying but y'know, half the stuff I listen to you probably think is crap. It's just trends and natural preference..
     
  4. Mountain Valley Wolf

    Mountain Valley Wolf Senior Member

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    I've got a pretty wide musical taste----I could probably dig it----If only I could check out some of the YouTubes you guys got on here : (

    I'm even into trance and all that kind of stuff---I've got a Korg MS2000 synthesizer and can play around with trance and, you know----whatever...

    Granted---not everyone is going to like Yoko Nagayama----but musicians there are experimenting with all kinds of new ways of applying Tsugaru Shamisen. There is even a Japanese, J9ohnny Be Good, with a tsugaru solo and accompaniment.
     
  5. mariecstasy

    mariecstasy Enchanted

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    Absolutely:)

    I don't understand the words to half the songs that speak english anyway;) I think I am tone deaf in some ways.
     
  6. mariecstasy

    mariecstasy Enchanted

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    I have a nose flute. ONce we had a Christmas party and had a whole crapload of them(plastic though), we gave everyone one when they came in. There were numbers on them so they knew where they were in the gift exchange. That was the best party ever!!!!!
    :cheers2::cheers2::cheers2:
    People have alot of fun with drinks and nose flutes.
     
  7. Mountain Valley Wolf

    Mountain Valley Wolf Senior Member

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    Wow----that's cool---where would you find those?----were they long? The one I have is made out of some kind of hollowed out stick---very straight, and about 2 1/2 feet long.
     
  8. Jaitaiyai

    Jaitaiyai Cianpo di tutti capi

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    I didn't post that stuff.
    I only posted bollywood songs...

    Is it just youtube - can you download songs?
     
  9. Mountain Valley Wolf

    Mountain Valley Wolf Senior Member

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    I am not sure-----I might be able to----actually I have a video tape of about 50 Bollywood videos-----I can dig that stuff too---there are some good videos there. And I dig the shamisen tabla and all that stuff that often accompanies it.
     
  10. Jaitaiyai

    Jaitaiyai Cianpo di tutti capi

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    If you don't mind downloading a lot you can go to a website and download the vids using the youtube links. (e.g. keepvid.com). Playable with VLC media player.

    I'm sure theres an easier way but I'm not tech savvy enough. :eek:
     
  11. Mountain Valley Wolf

    Mountain Valley Wolf Senior Member

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    COOOL Thank you---I'll try that!!

    And---I must say, my musical tastes don't center around sexy women----but that is another passion in my life so they often coincide------so I have to say, I really dig those women in those Indian videos, man. Just like I really dig the belly dancers of the Middle East!
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yes.

    Damo Suzuki from CAN.
     
  13. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    Yes.

    Lots of music from all over the world. I can't understand about 40% of the music I listen to.
     
  14. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    Yes, in fact, I often completely rewrite songs unknowingly. I totally rewrote Benny and the Jets and every time it comes on the radio, someone makes fun of my version. :eek:
     
  15. nesta

    nesta Banned

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  16. Penny

    Penny Supermoderaginaire

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    of course! I listen to music for the music, mainly, not the words, for that I can read a poetry book. I do listen to singer/songwriter stuff and the lyrics count more in that genre but.. I can understand 3 languages anyways and if I can't, well, there's the music.
     
  17. ToFunToDie

    ToFunToDie Senior Member

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    She said it.
     
  18. Boogabaah

    Boogabaah I am not here

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    yes. i LOVE kirtan!
     
  19. jamaican_youth

    jamaican_youth Senior Member

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    i never listen to the lyrics, if I like a song, it's because of the tune. Half the stuff they say doesn't even make sense.
     
  20. Tisha Mc

    Tisha Mc Banned

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    I don't have to understand it to love it. Even some stuff in English in indeciferable to me, but I still like it. That's what I hated about people from my youth (youth pastors and other people from church) telling me not to listen to certain music because it would cause me to do bad things. Just because I sing along with it, does not mean that it is influencing my actions, what a stupid thing to imply.
     
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