what to do?

yet
your dreasds are 3 incghes..judst babies
dran\]gon..u say it cayuses a visible hole that eventuasly closes up
that hole cannot existwithout hairs having been punctured to create it
then compression forces the hairs to fill in the hole



now to the op
why would u punch holes in the dread when u can smooth down loosies with a lil touch of aloe? aloe which is proven to be good for hair and scalp?
theres zero chance of dammage with putting a luiquid on the outside instead of forcing a solid through the inside.

if u google dammage causedby crochetting dreads u will find literaly thousands of ppl making clao]imes that crochetting dammaged theyre dreads severely

change that to.. dread loss from crochetting and u still get thousands of results.


in fact, for every blog or forum post suggesting it should be used u will fond a post or comment saying exactly what ive said, that neredles cannot go through dreads without causing dammage
and over perforation can weakebn the dread till it falls off.

its simple logic
i did not ask u to prove u had no dammage (since u cant without a microscopic view of the inside of the dread) i ssked u to explain in logical terms howw any metal object can poaass through a dread without breaking hairs

(and if u do it very close together like haz, the weakening is increased holes far apart cause less weakening then holes very close together)


i dont really care if u go on polking holes in your dreads they sre your dreads to abuse any way you want.
but to tell others to do it with absolutely no logical proof how they can do no dammage is just mean.
and irresponcible.
dammage your own dereads all you want
but dont dammage otgers when there are safer healthier more gentle alternatives.

 

2 options?
hasrdly
they have 1 option to leave it alone and ignore it...a fine option indeed
they have abnother option to smeasr on some aloe therby making the loose hairs disdapear into the body of the dread.. great optionm very effective and totaly harmless
then they have the 3rd, not second iption of harming theyre dreads with crochette
you are trying to make it sound like they either have to poke holes through the dreads or go around with loose hairs.
this is total bullshit
i gave the best option in post 1
aloe
the discussion never had to go any further then that
the problem was solved without creatting more problems.

 

SE, The discussion does have to go further than that because crocheting is a viable way of gettin rid of loose hair. Also, the "best option" for you may not be the best option for others. I have a good friend who has had her locks for 5 years. She asks me to crochet them occasionally for her. I do. She continues to have them maintained not because she has to from damage caused by crocheting but because she chooses to. It is apparent that you have never crocheted your own locks and I think you might be confused on a couple things. Crocheting and felting are not the same thing. Felting does indeed break the hair and causes damage. Crochet hooks on the other hand come in very small sizes and are always smooth and rounded on the end. Anyone I've ever talked to that crocheted only did so to pull loose hairs into the root. The root is loose hair already and the hook slides in effortlessly. The loose hairs are then pulled into the root, not all at once, but a few hairs at a time in different spots around the root. Now if someone was going to push a crochet hook through a mature dread (as you are describing) 1) what would be the purpose as its already mature and there aren't any loose hairs, and 2) it still wouldn't break any hairs inside the dread because of the nature of crochet hooks. There are no jagged edges on it and hair is obviously a very tough fiber to break. The crochet hook will take the path of least resistance. It is easier for the hook to push the hairs aside than to break the hairs in half. Also I don't think just leaving your hair alone will get rid of loose hair. Ive had my locks almost 4 years and I still have loads and loads of loose hair. It looks like I have an aura around my head from all the loose hairs. Not everyone wants this look. I don't care if my hair looks neat and tidy though. Also, I'm incredibly lazy so I just leave it alone.

 

if the loose hair is just atthe roots just smooth it down

but it sounded like they were takking about loose haies completely outside thre dread or along the dread shaft.

i agree crocheetting is far less dammaging then felting,
and if it is strickly used soley on the rootsthen yes there is plenty olf room to use it safely (althoutgh totale not needed) but this is not the case
most use it all the length of the dread to pull in ever hair outside the dread, that fuzziness dresads tend to have.
when hair is tightly compacted a round object cant just push hairs aside that have no room to get out of the way, the path of least resistence ids right through.
i read articles that said poking s crochette hook through the dread will cxause unnoticed dammage as individual hairs break very easily and silently without being felt.
only whben tight bundles of dozens of hairs break at once is it noticable. and many reported having that happen at times.


now last noght i was researching repairing damthere are scale like cells along the hair shaft that are displaced by the metal teeth while backcombing tghen thgese are displaced it exposes the weaker core of the hair
\once thatdammage has been done it cannot be repaired

now if a hook can actualy squeeze past all the toghtly knotted hairs it still is putting alotta pon it pushing ot out of the way (pressure increased byu the resistence to mivement caused by the tightly packed hairs.)
so even if it doesnt actualy break the hair its rubbing hard against the side of the hair folicule displacing the protective sheathing.

now i will repeatr this
onfce hair is dammaged..it cannot be repaired

so..why risdhk dammage? odviosly metal is harder then hair right?
osdviosly before we dreaseded we routinely trimmed away the dammage cay=used by normal combing
so wghy now that we are protecting hair from dammage by letting it dread do we push metal objects into the dreads?
once you do..tyou cannot undo
so yea yiur right i never would once.
and odviosly mine havent been weakened a bit (except by being stepped on)

 

I have to agree with you there I think (brayingdonkey). Although I've never done it and wouldn't consider doing it, more because it seems like too much bother to me than anything else. Anyway I can't see how crocheting can do more damage than ripping hairs apart, nor do I see the point that once you start crocheting you have to continue. I think that most people continue to do it because they prefer the "neat" look rather than keeping it up because it looks particularly different.

 

SE,
I'm not going to get into it with you because you sound like a broken record. But I will ask you, who is the author of these articles you are reading. Would his name happen to be, Soaring Eagle? You are the first person I've ever talked to that claimed crocheting is damaging. I think, that since you have zero personal experience with crocheting, you have very little room to argue.
-BD

 

citation needed!

you talk about basic logic and how we are too stupid to comprehend your delusional ramblings. let me try to explain to you what a crochet hook is. ill make it easy with visuals.



this hook is an appropriate size for dread maintenance.
note the sightly rounded but pointed tip. it is designed to part fibers and hairs.
when you put it through a dread, even a mature one, the hairs are pushed to either side.
believe me, there is no way you could rip a hole through the hairs of a dread with a little piece of metal! lol thats ridiculous. the hairs are parted. period.

since i have experience with crocheting, i can tell you that hairs are not broken when you insert the hook.

its pretty fucking basic and logical.

 

Ahhh thanks for the visual Scatteredleaves! Thats exactly what I would have posted if I wasnt so lazy Thats the exact size hook I use too

 

Hm... "part fibers and hairs' .....

I know you guys say it does no harm whatsoever, but it just sounds so counter-productive to me... To part the hairs within a dreadlock? And knowing that I'm piercing through it like that...To me, logic would dictate that repeatedly piercing through a mature dread would not be so good. Just not sure I could bring myself to do it. I know you said it is "pretty fucking basic and logical" but maybe I just cannot grasp it~

I have a hook right here, but I haven't used it... Started having second thoughts, here.

 

It really doesn't get much clearer and since you still don't get it I'm sorry about your mental retardation friend.

 

I saw your stealth edit~

 

whatever, it still said the same thing... just worded differently :cheers2:

 

Regardless, I was just expressing my concerns in a non-threatening way. No need for such accusations. Mental retardation? And without a complete physical examination and medical history.

 

Yes. I was thinking the same, and with putting even a fine needle through...same as when you sew, the fibers are parted as opposed to punctured, otherwise all our clothes would fall off as they tear along the dotted line

With crocheting, I think damage would be more likely to occur when you withdraw the hook, because a caught hair may snap under tension. Yeh? But of course this is avoidable with care I guess.

 

ugh. hairs break all the time anyway. half of the hairs in my dreads are broken, they break when i rip em! so i don't see the problem with crocheting, though i have only tried it once or twice. do it if you want to, your dreads will definitely look crocheted... but if you're ok with that then go for it!

 

I've crocheted. No different "look" or patten to the dread. No feeling I need to continue for the life of the dreads. No feeling of breaking hairs. I'd recommend it for fast, tidy looking results. I stopped awhile ago, cause i dont mind the messy look and feel my dreads will tidy themselves up in time, because i got time.

 

ok i wanna make this clear. I agree crocheting with a CROCHET HOOK is bad, but with a sewing needle... I'll try and explain:


http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll47/gabrian123/dreads.jpg

1.Put the thread twice trough the needle so it creates a loop.
2.Put the needle right in the middle of the loose hairs.
3.Twist the near loose hairs with your finger so they get close to each other.
4.Put the loose hairs trough the loop, so it can pull them trough the dread.
5.Pull the needle trough the dread and voila!

Keep doing that untill they're gone. I hope you understand my tutorial

 

Good

 

its just quite clear to me that some folks are just down right opposed to anything that does not occur naturally and try to scare the shit outta the others ,weather it makes any damn sense at all. I find that I just skim over SE's posts anyway...so dont think he is really making the impact he seems to think that his constant ramblings might...cause frankly I just get tired of hearing the same shit over and over and over and over.......

this is bad it will cause damage...but RIP the shit outta em....duh duh duh!!!
guess what folks hair freaking breaks...and they end up in your dreads anyway...do you really think that your hair has stopped shedding or breaking?????

 

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