Candyflipping and first time using LSD

First of all, let me introduce myself. I'm madcut and I'm new to these forums from Phoenix, AZ. From the threads I have read, this place seems like it has some interesting people.

Anyways, on to my question. I'm considering candy flipping in a couple weeks. I have done E several times with great experiences. It truly believe it has helped me with my depression (I actually got off the SSRI anti depressant Effexor XR so I could try it). It has brought out things that I did not know existed in myself, including the connection of body and music through dance which I now love.

I have never done LSD and have been slightly afraid of trying it in fear of having a bad trip. I have done shrooms before and had a horrible trip last year in Pagosa Springs, CO. I took a little over a 1/16th, 20 mins later was feeling good and thought the trip was fine. My friends and I all leave the hotel to go to the natural hot springs which is across the street. The weather is like 5 degrees outside and we are in our shorts. We go into the gym and I'm taking a little longer then everyone else, (and at this point I'm starting to trip pretty bad, feeling like everyone is watching me) so my friends go on ahead and tell me where to meet them. I leave the lockers and can't find my friends at all for around 20 mins while I'm tripping in front of people all around sitting in hot springs (mainly composed of children and their parents). I finally find my friends and they have no idea how I'm feeling so they start joking around with me, further putting me into a bad trip. I tell them I'm going back to the hotel room by myself, hardly able to articulate myself. Once back I try making myself throw the mushrooms up, to no avail. I feel like I'm being thrown into an existential hellhole for half an hour until they finally get back. For the next four hours nothing really change, but they walk me through it.

The next two months I had semi flash backs and stomach pain caused by anxiety. I thought the trip brought out some deep rooted Schizophrenia or something (which is possible in rare cases). It took me several months until this anxiety faded away. But even after this I found the experience to be somewhat worthwhile, I was forced to face some of my fears about life and existence. The main fear I was confronted with during and after the trip was how completely alone you are in life, but this realization made me appreciate friends and family SO much more for their support in life.

I felt I had to write that out so people might get an idea of why I am a little afraid of taking LSD. I have change a lot as an individual since my shroom trip. I am much more open, confident, sociable, creative and independent since then. From what I hear LSD is easier to manage as it is more theoretical, whereas taking mushrooms actually gives you a sense of belief and conviction. I am a very analytical person and love logic and philosophy, so I imagine my brain could have a lot of fun on lsd.

I figure that taking LSD, peaking then taking a two pills of E might create a good experience. If I do so it will be at a 24 hour desert rave playing all Psytrance and house with amazing visuals. There is one main stage with some great DJs playing. It will be under the beautiful Arizona sun hundreds of people will be camping, dancing and playing music. arty:

So I'm curious as to whether I should do this. If I should candy flip or just take LSD by itself. I am mainly worried about having a bad trip and screwing up my enjoyment of this event, because it will be a fantastic one.

Once again hello and thanks for any replies! Sorry this was a little long. :tongue:

 

festivals are usually a really great environment to trip in. Especially psytrance raves coz there are such good vibes there (in my experience any way).

The beauty of candy flipping is that the pill puts u in such a great mind frame that it is almost impossible to have a bad trip (again in my experience)

I definitely recommend taking lsd at the rave. Just do it with people you trust and dont take too much and you should be fine.

Take the pill about 3 or 4 hours after the acid imo. That way you come down from both at around the same time. And if your having a great time on just the lsd then there is no need to candyflip.

 

I just want to say that your bad trip on shrooms was only a bad trip because of setting. i doubt it had much to do with the interaction of your entity with the mushroom entity, and more to do with the interaction of (your entity + mushroom entity) + setting.

You could have been high on sugar and it would have sucked to be lost and around kids and parents. that could have caused some major anxiety, especially for your first powerful psychedelic experience.

I would recommend just doing acid for your first time. You may be shocked at how intense it is.

 

i would say to try acid alone for the first time. get a feel for what it is alone. (it's pretty great)

i agree that the bad shroom trip seems to be due to bad setting and unhelpful friends.

like the other guy said, if you're having a good time of the acid, no need to candyflip

 

Thanks a lot for the replies. When I was on the shroom trip I did have a feeling that I could control the experience at the beginning of the trip. I was in a neutral mood but I was so worried about having a trip that I did not realize that having that intent and state of mind would actually push me into having a bad experience. Then once I was around a bunch of sober people in a public setting, that just made everything worst.

I think what I will do is just have some acid ready, take it at the festival and see how I am feeling after a few hours. If I'm feeling amazing then I won't need to take the ecstasy, but if I feel like the ecstasy could be beneficial towards the trip and want to connect my body into the experience of the music (if acid has not done so already) then I will drop the e.

I'm 130 pounds with around medium tolerance. To roll I usually chew one pill and swallow another, and this gives me a moderate experience. If I want to roll a little harder I might chew one and swallow two and then I will have much more bodily sensations. But obviously this all depends on the quality of the pills.

So what is a good amount of lsd to take for my first time? I want to get the effects of it, but I don't want to lose control. I'm not sure if I can even ask this question without knowing the potency of the acid.

 

you're right with your last sentence, but a good rule is 2. if they are weak, you'll have a nice weak glow, but if they are bomb, well, even 2 bomb hits is still epic and functional

 

my personal opinion is mixing acid with e is a waste of acid

 

I think ecstasy and acid equals pure bliss. Most amazing feeling i've ever had

 

anytime i've ever mixed acid with anything it dulled the feelings i got and i had a hard time differentiating between what was making me feel what. it greatly diminished the feeling i got from the dose. i don't mix it anymore. different strokes for different folks : )

 

Yeah i agree that it makes it hard to tell what drug is doing what. But i just find the combined effect is just amazing. Dont think I'm on acid and ecstasy. Just think about what you are feeling at that second.

Still i was tripping with somone once who was on a pill and on acid and he was having a wonderful time but everyone else who was there (also tripping) felt that really bad dark energy was coming from him. we decided it was the pill doing that.

One person was even scared to talk to him.