do I believe in natural?

yeah, i read them as tongue in cheek... but sometimes i take what people say like that anyway and it turns out that theyre serious =]

 

i hope it was tongue in cheek cos it was a pretty wanky thing to say otherwise. Its hard to call though: enayes has been pretty preachy about 'natural' dreadlocks from off in this thread - and quite rude with it in several places. There just no need for it.

 

luxie~

You seem like a sweetie in other posts, so this is NOT to be taken personally... but this thread is complete lulz. You started this post as if natural dreads are a religion. If you don't "believe" in it, I guess you haven't met many people with natural dreads.

I don't believe for a second that your husband wasn't, at the very least, pulling tangles apart with his fingers. Dreads don't immediately form as dreads, they start as tangles, which, when left alone, will turn into dreads. My hair is STICK straight and I had my first dreadling within a month. I'd rather hear from your husband that his hair never tangles then from you! (or maybe he came on here? IDK - I got bored after page 7 or so ).

 

Haha... what's the question?! That made no sense, but I'd be happy to try to answer if you clarify.

 

sorry for any offence caused, i was just trying to reach an end for this thread, trying to unite everyone and make everyone equal as it should be, i hate the stupid heirarchy that is created, so i tried to make a point that pools us all together.

I wasnt condemning any form of spirtual journey dreads create for people, nor was i slating those that consider dreads just a hairstyle with no spiritual feel.

And in reply to your statement that im not happy with my dreads, I love my dreads , and i wouldnt change anything about them

 

Your point was a good one Phil, and well made. I got ranty making the exact same point several weeks ago, and while many folks expressed agreement and, like now, bemusement at why people can't just live and let live, there are still those that insist on taking the moral high ground and looking down their noses at others. No amount of reasoning is going to make a difference if they need to place themselves atop a hierachy to feel good about themselves and their choices. And since when were dreadlocks a one-size-fits-all hairdo anyway?

 

geez, this is getting soo ridiculous! I am not anti-natural, if your the patient type and prefer the natural look then you should go that way. I'm not patient and I wanted control over the size of my locks (I don't like surprises either) the only reason I started this thread was because I found on this forum, people were coming on wanting locks and the majority of answers to the question, 'I want dreadlocks' was to go the natural route.
I wanted dreads, so I got em! I didn't want to wait! I used my husband as an example of how long a wait it can be not that it is for everyone right?
Everyone is different, every dread is different and like Phil said before, quit putting down some methods and bigging up others. I'm soo happy w my hair and that I went the route I went and then someone like SE is glad he went natural.
We all have dreads and love em, so lets join hands and sing-right??

Gaiabee: you don't have to believe me, and I don't see natural as a religion. When I said 'do I belive in natural' it was just because of my husbands experience. I've met many dreadheads, some were natural (most weren't) and some had dreads that didn't tighten for ages even after backcombig or whatever. I just thought it was interesting is all, tbh I didn't think it was going to cause such a furoe(?)

Enayes(?)my guess is he was being serious. Honestly, some people in here realli need to get laid.

 

:rofl:

 

and preachy for someone who does not even have dreads at all right?????

 

apparantly not. most people on here though, say they have dreads when they stop combing which is cool. I think the lesson here is that natural is different for everyone. I wouldn't have felt natural not running my fingers through my hair and just let it sit on top of my head w/out caring for it. I did feel natural ripping&twisting and then letting it be. Who cares where they came from? I love everyones dreads on here, some people on here are totally dreacist. I was just in the shower thinking of how I could compare this to something else. All I could come up w was artificial insemination though, haha.

 

its all just rather silly I think

and really who REALLY gives a shit???????

when newbies come on here and introduce their selves ,the first question is "what was your method", I dont think they really want to know...they want an opportunity to bash.
and also if at a year...you cant tell what their method was without asking...hummmmmmm

 

exactly, just looking through the inspiration thread the majority of the dreads on there look rip&twisted and waxed...

 

seriously? seriously this is still going on? OMG. Really its just hair people. I cannot believe throughout this entire forum the judgement. It does not matter how you happen among dreadlocks, the point is we all do and I as a backcomber and waxer DO NOT find people who go natural to be any better than me. *shrug* I'm really thinking of abandoning this forum all together though because really, I'm sick of having to see people defend their dreads and methods and whatnot... Everyones dreads are beeeaaaautiful... and mullets are cute, and mohawks are funky.... its just freaking hair people.... get over it.

 

If no one gives a shit, then why do posts like this constantly creep up? It seems that it's mainly the people who backcomb or t/r who have some issue with natural locks. The only person here who constantly pushes for natural locks is SE with a few others now and then. The only reason I think SE *is* so pushy is because there's a constant stream of misinformation about natural locks (including that backcombing is the only way to get uniform locks - mine are pretty damn uniform looking). I guess people just like to talk about things they know nothing about.

There's this constant defensiveness of those who went other routes, which includes creating posts like this just to provide some sort of evidence against natural route... with quite a few nasty comments about natural locks and assumptions about others following suit (for example: saying that people with natural locks look like scarecrows for however many years. Um. okay, thanks). THAT'S what's silly.

 

Eh? This reply will be a bit poor because I feel rough, lol, but do you genuinely believe these were Luxie's motives for starting this thread? It seemed like honest, harmless, valid and interesting curiosity. Maybe I need to make my "reading inside my head" voice more hostile so I can get why people seem so arsey about stuff.
That make sense?

 

Well said Amy!

We're not jealous of natural locks, nor are we trying to bash them. Just curious on other's experiences with them and the amount of time it takes to knot up.

 

you got the rough end of the pineapple there Gaiabee... I was waiting on the bus for ages the other day. When it finally came some guy legs it around the corner and hops on just in time. I'm not pissed off at him because I waited?! Even when it takes even longer for the bus to actually get going cuz he had to rummage through his pockets to get change.

 

haha cute analogy! i like it.

and yeah, i completely agree its just hair and who really cares enough to have a big debate about it. but i do think it should be addressed and can be resolved in some way.
obviously the individuals who push natural care.
and the people who are looking for honest, impartial information on starting their dreadlock journey care.
and to some people, natural locks might be important in a spiritual or whatever sense and thats great. i understand that well.
and some might just want dreadlocks as a hairstyle which is totaly fine and i cant believe the amount of people who think they are justified in bashing that.

i just think that no method should be pushed on new, uninformed future dreadheads. all methods that are not harmful should be represented and accurate, proven information should be given. period.
if someone wants dreads that look like dreads right from the beginning, the last thing they want to hear is a huge argument about "what as twaste it wooudl be to ruin such perfect ahir for naturals asndf dont backdcomgb becasue its willl jsut ruine your hairanda it will all fasll out its is soooowo damadging and dton listnen to asll theh liars ites jsuts fearemongrering...."
and not only stated once, but in reply to every other helpful post that someone makes that might actually be relevant to their hair type, situation, wants and needs.

tbh, when someone asks me in rl what to do to get dreads, hair like mine, etc. the first thing i say is "if leave your hair alone, knots will form and those will turn into dreads with time" or something to that effect.
but if thats not their thing, who the fuck am i to insist that natural is the only way to get dreads (because that is absolute shite as we all know).

my bottom line: dreads should be a representation of you as a person, they should suit you and make you happy. i would never want smooth, perfect, maintained locks. that would totaly just not be my thing. wouldnt suit me or even look good on me imo.
but i know people who love that look and look good with it and more power to them. and i will be more than happy to help them reach their goal of having hair that suits them.

 

yiour so bhiold*sdmacks assx*

haa,it's funn^-^

 

hahaha