Do we still have Free Speech in the USA?

yes or no?

why or why not?

 

am I allowed to say?

 

I'm not sure a simple answer would suffice. Theres the internet, so I could argue that speech is freer then eva'. On the other hand,..

I've never been censored and I say some pretty wild shit and shit. GE causes cancer!

 

haha!

maybe.

 

Just saw the movie "End of America" by Naomi Watts. Here's a youtube clip with an interview about it. I HIGHLY recommend for people to see this movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0LvtQAQ6sc

 

until they are allowed to refer to people as 'fucking douchebags' on the evening local news, then no. we don't.

 

I've never been to the US, but I'd say you have free speech within certain limits, so essentially, no. Especially with recent amendments to your constitution.

Then again, who really cares? Who really ever exercises their free speech unless they're trying to be assholes?

 

until the day I can yell theater in a crowded fire.. then I dont think we have complete free speech. Like Lode pointed out, theres no simple answer. Its not quite so black and white.

In comparison to some cultures in Asia, the middle east, and Utah, we have more free speech. Yet, we still have our own cultural shortcomings that limit what we can say. Our culture wants us to speak vocally, but within the boundaries of respect for religion and children.

I'd be more worried about a world where people wouldn't mind watching 2 girls 1 cup on the nightly news.

 

yup, i agree with most posters in this thread; we have freeer speech than most places, but it's far from being truly free.

 

We have the illusion of free speech.... for now. You can say what you want, but that doesn't mean you won't end up on some "terrorist watch list" or "no fly list," or that your phone calls and e-mails won't be monitored by the NSA.

I mean, there is actual legislation, such as the Military Commissions Act, which outlines potential "enemy combatants" (oh, I forgot, they're not using that definition anymore) being US citizens who are outspoken about the government.

So yeah, you have free speech, until you're taken from your home in the middle of the night and flown off to some distant country to be tortured and interrogated for saying something that the powers that be do not agree with.

 

completely agreed. and what's worse I think is the fact that there's still a big ILLUSION that we have free speech. I think the gov't is just biding their time anyway, lining up all their ducks in a row, before they pull out the rug all at once. And the illusion will continue right up until that time. Having Obama in office now only serves to build on that illusions, to give people a sense of hope (albeit a false one) in order to make them relax back into complacency. But in actually he's just playing "good cop" to Bush's "bad cop".. and they're both still joined in allegiance to the same agency.

 

Naomi Wolf. Naomi Watts is the hottie in Mulholland Dr. Now I'm slightly interested in reading The Beauty Myth. I agree with the subtitle.

 

oh shit, sorry! Thanks Cherea!!

 

Very well said. You are absolutely 100% correct.

If you look at Obama, he backs all the legislation put forward under Bush. First he said he would overturn the Patriot Act, but then he voted to reauthorize it. He spoke out against warrantless wiretapping, but then he put his support behind FISA. So, like you said, it's all a veneer that's being used to trick the public into thinking they're getting change, while at the same time the agenda we've witnessed over the past eight years is not going away, but rather it is being expanded under the guise of this flowery and idealistic rhetoric about hope and change. It is very well-crafted media propaganda, and people are falling for it.

The good cop/bad cop scenario you mentioned sums it up perfectly, because meanwhile Obama is working for the same international, corporate elite that Bush answered to for the past eight years. Nothing changes behind the curtain when the mask presented to the public changes. That's something people need to understand.

 

It's not the government. You guys make a big spook out of it.

 

and so why hasn't this happened to you just yet?

 

because the acid was bad.

 

It's the people behind the government, who are in control of it. I am well aware of this, and then some. Government is their vehicle, that's all.

 

It hasn't happened to me yet. It doesn't mean it won't at some time. But the fact is that it HAS happened to numerous people, and it continues to happen, mostly to Americans of Middle Eastern descent who are merely suspected of being "terrorists." They are slowly altering the term "terrorist" to include blond-haired and blue-eyed Americans who dissent against the powers that be. FOX News and other propaganda outlets have done numerous bogus news pieces on so-called white al-Qaeda. Of course there is no such thing as a "white al-Qaeda," let alone the al-Qaeda most people think of when they hear the name, which comes from the name of a CIA database translating to "the base."

 

I don't doubt it. I have just always wondered why you are so vocal about the elite when you know you are being monitored.

You probably don't watch any tv. We don't either, but have you seen the show Heroes?