im not even sure if this belongs in this forum, by I feel like it does... the other night before my first salvia experience i meditated for a long time, said a prayer asking for my guides to stay with me and keep me safe ...both consciously and subconsciously I felt like I would see something of relevance to my spiritual quest while under the influence(which was my sole purpose for using it) anyways i take my hit, lay back on the bed and before i know it there are 3 feminine entities on either side of the bed, all of whom felt loving and familiar... they had a crazily brightly patterned blanket? hovering over me, whooshing it up as if tucking me into bed, with each whoosh it would come closer to covering my head....when it got up to my arms i felt this strange pressure and kind of freaked out and tried to sit up.... although later on when watchin the vid, i didnt try to sit up at all....i just flinched the arm in which i perceived the discomfort...nonetheless, at this point the "vision" ended the next few minutes i was somewhat coherent mumbling about the people in the room... once i fully came back to, i was shaken (literally shaking too) and felt cold but full of love and light... do you think this was a mere hallucination do you think they were my guides what do you think? i have my theories but I'd like more perspective on this.... anything would be appreciated
never have i experienced something like what you mentioned during any psychedelic drugs i've ever done, i've had some very spritiual experiences, i think you should call yourself very lucky to have had such a strong experience. maybe you should just accept it as it was? i'm not so much into these things, but i think your the only one who can explain those events, every person has its own spiritual quest and history.
i know right??!? thats the thing....i've NEVER seen something that wasn't there while tripping, my mind has played tricks on me and made objects appear in a different form than they actually are.... everytime i hear a story of "oh i was on acid and saw purple elves running around" i always call bullshit, impossible! didnt happen! but now i wonder i mean i actually saw people who werent there, i do not remember there faces just their silouhettes maybe they didnt even have faces?! it was a very intense experience, and like i said i do have my theories but was hoping someone could give me a different perspective on it....maybe someone who has experienced something similar or has a lot of experience with salvia?! where is stalk when i need him?!
I've never done salvia but it's the only herb out there i might consider trying ... and it sound like you had a great experience compared to many salvia experiences i've read and heard about, and i think your intent in using it ... the spiritual and healing vision intent bears a large part in creating the experience you had. But what is a hallucination anyway? Our whole reality could be considered a hallucination. It's all perception, but i would say that whatever you experienced it is valid for you and for your learning and understanding, and you may not understand it for years to come or never. But don't dwell on it or try to understand it too mutch, like i said it may make more sense later.
I had a very intense spiritual experience with Salvia the first time I used it. I was being sucked into the void, away from a life that was played out on a reel of film. I panicked and started screaming for my husband to grab my hands and keep me from going into the void. I felt like I was going to lose my sense of self. It was WILD! Looking back I could totally see the primal ego fear that was envoked there. This was the very heart of my entire egoic existance. It was such a powerful experience that I'm still influenced by it and learning from it.
I felt that sense of panic when that pressure hit my arm, otherwise it was a very warm and welcoming experience... I wonder what would've happened had I been able to remain calm... in the days after I have felt extremely introspective but strong...I am able to face things about myself that i have long repressed... its liberating and exciting do you plan to try it again bluesafire? was that your only time doing it?
As per the pain in your arm.. have you ever broken that arm, etc, or maybe you should watch out of a broken arm in the nearer future. Also, i beleive it's whatever you make of it. If someone on here tells you that they know for sure what you saw, wouldn't they be full of bull, and won't you not accept the answer until someone says it is? Choose what you want it to be, and make it that. Reality, not only the mundane, is in your mind, and your mind alone.
yes as a matter of fact i broke the wrist on that arm, and dislocated the elbow when I was a kid..... you're right, it is totally what I make of it....I completely understand that, even if someone on here were to tell me exactly what they thought it all meant I would still have my own theory behind it... Im just interested in hearing other peoples perspectives
I'm in a very confused place now, not sure if the world is of our own creation or that of a divine conciousness. I mean, when you examine the powers of the mind.. Then again, I don't think our minds and evolution accidently created incredibly complex DNA, let alone something 'simple' like a protein molecule. I'd say that rather than an answer, this is more of a question, that you've seen. The question is, just what, and how deeply, do you believe?
MaryJBlaze, I think you were given a glimpse of your spirit guides...perhaps they also perform protecting duties. And the broken arm/dislocated elbow Could have been much worse, yes?
the qeustion: the answer: you knowingly consumed a hallucinogenic drug, specifically for its hallucinogenic properties and when you had a hallucination you ask "was this just a hallucination?" yes congratulations! you experienced a hallucination as a side effect of consuming a hallucinogenic drug, what a gosh darn surprise!!
Shallow interpretations. What we experience, whatEVER we experience, is a clue to something inside us that is trying to come to light. Was it your guides? In a sense we are our own guides...but the "reality" we have created for ourselves here consists so often of camouflage, hiding our true selves from our material selves, so that what is really "us" at a high level manifests as lower-level "guides." Ultimately we are all one, and we are all God. It's good to keep this in mind. But from a practical perspective, you can only perceive what you experience. The pieces of our individual puzzles are supplied in slow increments, to draw out the mystery of self-discovery. So. Seek for the meaning you personally draw from your experiences. This is the trail of bread crumbs that leads to understanding. What do these experiences say to YOU? What insights do they illuminate for you? Follow the yellow brick road...
Well I've done it a few times afterward but never experienced that same level of intensity or received such an insight. Also, the 1st time we did it we used a water bong... which really makes a big difference I think, with the level of intensity. I'm not really big on using substances though, so even though I think I might do it again, I may or may not... it's not that big a deal to me. Actually I lean more toward not using substances at this time because astrogically this isn't a good time for me to do that. I get insights on almost a daily basis anyway and feel that I'm already pretty tuned in directly to my inner guidance .. so I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything.
