A world with nothing but woman

I do not want to miss lead anyone here with name of this post; this is NOT about any kind of male fantasy consisting of a lot of woman for the sex crazed man. This is a serious issue that has been weighing on my mind for some time now and I am putting this post up in the hopes of getting good, honest feedback about what other people think.

I also do not want to miss lead people into thinking that I am talking about things in a metaphorical sense here. I assure you that when I say ‘A world with nothing but woman’ I mean it in a very literal sense, as I do with everything else that I’m talking about here.

I suppose the best place to begin is telling you the positive thing that believe feminism has done for our country (England, although I’m sure that this can be applied to other countries as well). The Suffragettes movement started in 1897, which eventually led to woman being given the same voting privileges as men in 1928.

Further campaigning for women’s right has continued throughout the 20th century. Although it has taken arguably far too long to achieve economic equality, we are now in a positive state of affairs where woman occupy positions equal to that of men, both in terms of financial salary and job responsibility. Granted there is still a far way to go to achieve total equality, however in terms of the voluntary sector we are very much there and this mind set is fast moving public sector. Once this economic equality has moved into to public sector fully then it will start moving into the private sector. Full economic equality is merely a matter of time.

Economic equality and the right to vote are clearly very positive steps in terms of woman’s rights and quality of life. Moreover I believe that it has benefited it has benefited society as a whole by introducing new perspectives and ideas that only woman could offer. Princess Diana is a great example of this. She opened up the concept on humanitarianism in ways that hadn’t been looked at before and even after her death the work that she started still continues.

This being said I would argue that feminism is an outdated concept that is beginning to do more harm to our country that good. I believe in equality, I do not believe in feminism, as feminism is no longer concerned about women having equal rights to men but actually having more rights than men.

Cultural and social environments are now completely dominated by women. Women determine the type of venue, the type of music, the type of cloths, the type haircut, the type of cologne and hell even the type of personality that defines us. Men model themselves or at least try to model themselves on what they think is most appealing to women a task that women are making increasing difficult. And even if we have altered all of these traits to a sufficient enough level to captivate a girl for any length of time, then all a superficial game. How well the guy plays this game will depend on whether they have sex that night or not. One evening I observed a friend in one of these games with a girl and I found myself thinking about if she would care about him and the complex issues that are assailing next month, next week, next morning?

I’m not denying that sex is very enjoyable and lot of fun but I fear that we’ve let it become so superficial that we’ve lost any deeper meaning behind it. I have know of many, many girls that are in relationships, married, engaged or just a steady boyfriend; of all of these I only know of one that is faithful. I am not proclaiming that this slip away from monogamy is a recent thing or that only limited to women, I do however believe that a vast majority of woman are become increasingly promiscuous at the expense of their partners.

Girls have behaved like this towards me when I’ve been relationships, so I realise that my viewpoint is not entirely unbiased here but I do think that this breakdown is basic morality can be placed largely at the feet of feminism. We’re at a stage of social evolution where woman treating men however they like is not only acceptable but actually encouraged though women’s literature and media. Because feminism has put the balance of social power in woman’s hand, men feel that there is nothing that they can do to combat this and the truth is that there actually isn’t that much that we can do, which leads to frustration, confusion and depression. This is also having a knock on effect to wider society, the inequalities facing the fathers for justice group is an excellent example of this.

Interestingly it’s not actually subservience that women want from men. Neil Strauss writes in his ‘The Game’ that the best way to talk to a woman is actually to knock her off the pedestal that she built for herself. This is done by berating the girl, in a jokey manner but is still berating her none the less. I have tried out a few of the techniques and am actually getting into much better conversations with girls now. I recently visited a friend and went out with one of his friends whose holy bible is ‘The Game.’ I observed my friends friend berate and ridicule this one girl for hours and hours. Absolute amazingly the girl was trying her hardest to impress the guy and whenever she went to the toilet she needed reassurance that he wasn’t going anywhere. I would like to pose a question to all of you who are reading this:

What is so wrong with simply being nice to people?

Feminism has raised woman so high that the only way to converse with them seem to be to bring them low. This can’t be achieved in any kind of nice manner but the cost of going about it is altering your personality and eventually your very soul. It’s a catch 22; you’re unhappy if you don’t but your unhappy do.

I realise that I have no frame of reference for this next point but I do not believe that woman are truly happy in a relationship where they are subservient to men or men are subservient to them. This in no small part would explain the raise in the number of lesbians within our society. Instead of having a flippant relationship with a man, they can have a much more equal relationship with a woman.

I respect people’s right to be homosexual but not to the existent of inhibiting natural procreation, which although the rise in gay woman hasn’t yet, I believe that it certainly has the possibility to in the near future. There is still a social stigma attached to being a gay man, which I would argue is actually a good thing. When they reach the realisation that they are gay, it is actually a serious lifestyle course that takes a proper amount of deep thinking. This however is not the case with homosexual woman. It is not only social acceptable to be a lesbian but it is actually social cool. Two examples of this are the TV show ‘The L Word’ and the song by Kate Perry ‘I Kissed a Girl.’

Men are slowly being pushed to the side, which is exactly the ultimate goal of radical feminism. Their idea of a utopia is a world where women live on one side of the woman and men on the other. The human race would procreate by the men sending semen over to the women.

Right now we have the genetic power to predetermine the sex of a baby before it is even conceived. Research into cloning genetics is coming on leaps and bounds all the time. Within our lifetime it is initially possible that scientists will be able to clone sperm. At this point feminists will no longer need men to supply them with sperm. Cloned sperm given to lesbian woman in an IVF clinic with the predetermined sex of the baby as female. Within one hundred to two hundred years it is entirely plausible that no men will exist at all and that society will consist solely of women.

It is arguable that this could be a good thing; I would beg to differ however. Recent scientific studies have offered evidence that men and women’s brains work differently. Collaboration between genders is a positive force within our society precisely for this reason. In the same way it was beneficial for society to accept the perspectives and ideas of woman in the 20th century; I believe it would be catastrophically detrimental to loss the perspectives and ideas of men in the future. This coupled with genetic tampering we would inevitably lose all creativity and individuality.

Men still need woman for various reasons; to give and receive love and supports, to have a free flowing exchange of thoughts and ideas and to create and build upon a family, to name a few. I do not believe that the same can be said of women’s need for men however. I would argue that for a healthy society and a health future this needs to change.

 

"Cultural and social environments are now completely dominated by women"

You might be able to get away with such a disillusion in the wealthy areas of the developed world but there is a common theme among all developing poor or overpopulated regions that women are mainly considered to be a burden. If there's one thing our future populations don't need it's a population of higher maintenance, more resource burning individuals.

 

I agree on "The Game" nearly 100%, and I hate playing it. Not that I'm in any way bad at it, but I always feel like that you have to restrict yourself if you wanna "get the girl". It's like theres 2 personalities, the one that's all "hey, SUP! Let's chill! Blah blah blah, let's chill tomorrow!" and then there's the one that likes to talk about the soul, plans for the future, conspiracy, politics, and life.

Of course I do meet the occassional girl that's a nice mix of both. A girl with intelligence and social skills is a super turn on.

A society of all women? The only way that'd be a good thing is if I were their king =}

 

Trouble is, a lot of successful women are actually men. I don't mean physically, but they've learned to adopt male forms of behaviour. Our own Mrs. Thatcher is a good example of this. The phenomeneon of the so callled 'lad-ette' is another.

I don't think true femminism has even begun.

 

Perhaps faggotry is that companionship solution. And if science could eventually cater to asexual procreation of one gender, then it could also cater to the other gender's procreational needs just as easily.

What a happy gay place the future is! Bring it on!

 

Read a comic book series called Y: The Last Man for an idea of how the world would possibly be without men.

I think your post is largely nonsensical and out of touch with reality. You strike me as someone who's been hurt by women over and over, and that sucks, but that's no reason to lose faith in the gender as a whole.

Women, much like men, don't actually know what they want from a partner. That's why people say they want one thing (their belief, which appeals to their sense of logic and reason) and then respond to something else entirely (their genetic coding, which will overrule reason any day of the week)

A lot of the things you say about feminism can be applied to any group that has been discriminated against throughout history. Modern day society is overly sensitive and generous because of things that have been done to members of such groups in the past. That's why you have feminism as a movement in place today, gay pride, racial quotation, et cetera ad infinitum.

The obvious answer is to grant all people equal rights and opportunity regardless of gender, ethnicity, and any other arbitrary attribute. This also includes not discriminating against the standardized "evil" profile of white, straight males.

A world without bigots. Possible? I like to think so.

As for your nonsense about homosexuality, it's not that it's more prevalent these days, it's just more widely accepted and thus people feel comfortable being true to themselves and doing what makes them happy, not what society tells them to do. Homosexuality is a natural thing (people who would argue this, please do research into other species that have homosexual relations before forcing me to make you look stupid) just like all other sexually "deviant" ways, and will never be an obstacle to the survival of any species.

Is it more unaccepted to be gay as a man than woman in popular culture? No - obviously. You see proud gay male characters everywhere in popular culture these days, just like female ones.

I think your worries are unfounded and the problem lies not in gender, ethnicity, hair color, or any other such petty thing. The problem is society, and the human behavior it reinforces. It's not the differences, it's the people who think the differences mean something that are the problem.

 

lmao.

 

Your absolute correct relaxxx about women still lacking the same basic rights that women enjoy here in more developing countries and this was something that I hadn’t previously considered. I certainly think it would be a better use of feminist’s time to bring a better quality of life to women in developing counties. Having said that I have heard stories where these women say that they enjoy their quality of life and don’t necessarily want western ideals force upon then. I suppose that this come down to the question, who are we to judge the way other people live? In terms of a world with nothing but women I can certainly see other countries without western views putting a stop to this.

Jimmy P I think that you have misunderstood me. Your right about me being hurt by women and as such I concede again that I am not entirely unbiased when talking about these issue. You are wrong about me hating women though because I don’t. I think hat hating any group of people based upon race, creed, sexuality or gender is fundamentally wrong and offers the individual nothing outside the limited narrow minded viewpoints that this hatred creates.

On the flip side however I do not believe that disagreeing and disagreeing strongly with concepts and ideologies can be a positive. For example disagreeing with fascism I would argue is not a bad thing. Now I don’t believe that feminism is quite as bad as fascism yet but I certainly don’t agree with its ideals. The problem with a lot of women (not all) is that they have adopted these concepts, however unknowingly as their own and this is leading to a basic break down of values and ethics within our county.

In terms of what I was saying about homosexuality I am not trying to campaign against it here. I think that people should do whatever makes them happy as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else. I do think however that reaching the conclusion about being gay so be a matter of great consideration, like for example a heterosexual couples decision to get married (probably a bad example but the best I can think of atm) and I do not believe that a lesbian lifestyle choice requires this same amount of thought.

I know that there are many proud gay men, notably Ian McKellen who is a fantastic actor and helped found Stonewall a gay, lesbian and bisexual right movement in England, which I believe can only be a positive thing for gay rights and in fact human rights. However I think your wrong in saying that gay men and women are stigmatised equally. I was walking to the shops with my male friend who is gay and people that knew him started to give him verbal abuse for no other reason than him being gay. If you can think of an example for this happening to a lesbian woman please enlighten me.

I have researched your comic book series “Y.” It looks really good and if I can find a copy cheaply then I will definably pick it up, thanks for recommending that to me. However that is not quite the idea that I had in mind when was talking about a world with nothing but women. I don’t think that there will be any kind of mass genocide of men; I don’t believe that even feminism would go that far (though if BlackBillBlake is right then we’re all screwed). If my theory is proven right (and I genuinely hope that it isn’t) then it won’t happen within our lifetime or even the next two or three generation’s lifetimes. We are talking about men gradually being phased out of humanity though genetic engineering over the course of hundreds of years here.

Although it is technically possible for a man to carry a baby to term now and therefore a world being nothing but men is plausible as BlazingDervish suggests is think it far less likely than then my idea. Women are natural child bearers and I highly doubt that this will change ever.

Although my idea may seem farfetched it is not actually imposable. If you don’t believe me then I suggest you look into the work they are doing with genetics at the moment. And if feminism is to achieve its ultimate goal then this farfetched ideas may very well come to pass.

 

As a woman, let me give you my 2 cents on your ideas...

To a certain extent, I agree with this, but I think it's mostly reactionary backlash from the way things have been the past several millennia. Many women in the feminist movement may still harbor hurt feelings over the past treatment of their gender. As someone else said, this phenomena is true for any historically maltreated group of people.

Perhaps you didn't consider this, but the same goes for women. Why do you think we wear make up, and shave our legs, and wear revealing clothing? We do this, consciously or not, to gain the attention of the opposite sex. Both genders do this.

Yes, it is all a superficial game, that's why I personally refuse to play it. You wonder if the girl would care about your friend the next day, week, or month...what about whether or not your friend would care about her? Biologically speaking, it is MUCH easier and common for a man to engage in casual sex, because their brains have a much easier time compartmentalizing their emotions from their sex lives. You wanna talk about emotional abandonment by women.....what about the millions upon millions of men worldwide that just get up and abandon their children, without looking back?? Yes, some women do the same, but because we are so physically invested in the development of children, it isn't nearly as common.

Yes, but again, that behavior is often encouraged by the men in society. Perhaps not the cheating, but the promiscuity and celebration of sluthood so common today (think Sex and the City). The biggest problem with how promiscuity is viewed is that society (men and women) have consistently spread the lie that sex and power should be allowed to mix. Men who are sluts are celebrated as "playas" and "pimps" and "ladies men," and women who fuck with little or no standards are "empowered" and "in control of their sexuality."

And of course, if your a woman (like me) who isn't interested in casual sex, and doesn't think about sex 24/7, then you're automatically a "prude" and "repressed" and you just need to "lighten up."

It has always been at least somewhat acceptable for a man to be a slut. The problem now is that with the sexual revolution in the 60s, women decided that the only way to make this fair is to make it acceptable for a woman to be a slut too. They did not consider what I would think would be the better solution: to demand that men grow up and take responsibility for their actions and their families.

I agree that the family court system is certainly an example of sexism against men. We cannot run after men for their money (child support) and then not let them have a relationship with their child. Unfortunately, it is logistically difficult to allow both parents equal time, particularly when they live far away from each other. Of course things can and should be approved upon in this area, but I'm not sure if there will be a solution that everyone is happy with. Sadly, most people (both genders) who engage in sex and relationships are too ill-prepared and immature to do so, and the result is a broken home and fighting over the kids.

Your last question highlights my thoughts on this issue exactly. Neil Strauss is an immature, manipulative douchebag who can rot in hell as far as I'm concerned. You should keep in mind that the type of boys he writes this shit for are the type of boys who are looking to get their dicks and their ego stroked all night long. You cannot have a mature, adult relationship with someone when you meet them in the context of manipulation and lies.

I agree this is 100% stupid, but keep in mind most of the situations you refer to are those that occur in very sexually aggressive environments such as bars and clubs. That's why I avoid these places completely. There are other ways of meeting people that don't involve playing some artificial role you're not comfortable with.

The thing is, if you look at any couple (straight, gay, lesbian, traditional, contemporary) there will nearly always be one partner who takes on more of a dominant role, and one who is more submissive (to one degree or another). Some people just have a naturally more domineering personality, and others are naturally more submissive. The healthiest relationships are ones in which each partners strengths, gifts, and personalities are respected and appreciated, whether its with the man as more dominant or the woman. Some couples are more or less equal with regards to balance of power, but not every person would be happy in such a relationship.

The reason people seem to be so confused with this issue is that we've always been told the man needs to be in charge, even when said man was not a natural leader and would have been happier with his wife in control. Nowadays, we are told that women have to be independent and do everything ourselves, even when we might be happier letting a man have some control.

The point is, each couple is different, and each couple has to find what works for them in their relationship, rather than listening to society.

With a population of 6.5 billion and growing, I don't think you have to worry about inhibiting natural procreation. If anything, more gay people might actually be a blessing for the planet.

You seem to be forgetting that the lessened stigma on lesbians 1: only applies to feminine lesbians, and 2: coincides perfectly with male fantasy. How many lesbian scenes are there in pornos? I don't think anyone can count. Men love lesbians....provided they aren't butch and they aren't really lesbian but bisexual. Men don't seem to like lesbians as much when they aren't interested in having a threesome with a guy.

I think you're worrying a bit too much here. Even if the most radical of radical feminists sincerely hate men and want them gone, the vast majority of women WANT men in their lives. Men and women NEED each other, in the same way that people need other people. The high-tech IVF/cloning stuff you're talking about only would apply to the wealthy, and even if they made it available to everyone, it wouldn't stop everyone from having sex and doing it the old fashioned way.

I think a much more pressing issue here is men's and women's oversimplification of gender relations. The thing you, and everyone else, has to keep in mind is that people are people, whether they have a penis or a vagina. It seems to be very easy to point out the differences between us, but no one seems to want to focus on the fact that when you get down deep enough, we are all one.

 

yeah! with sperm banks and turkey basters who needs men?



just kidding, guys.