Madonna

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by silverhippy, Mar 31, 2009.

  1. Friend

    Friend Banned

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    :cool: I said the word "nig" and got nothing - you think calling a Canadian, "Canadian"...will get something? You have to go AT least one step higher than me...
     
  2. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    true story. :cheers2:
     
  3. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    Whatever their motives, if their publicity stunts and fads have an indirect positive effect on someone else, I'm all for it.

    I do agree, though, that people should find something else to worry about than what entertainers get up to. This celebrity worship is ridiculous.
     
  4. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    Haha, ok.

    All I was trying to say is that I really believe that the only reason why someone adopting a child is being put in a negative light is because the person in question is a celebrity.
     
  5. silverhippy

    silverhippy Comfortably Numb

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    She said she doesn't like you.. Sorry i tried.. :) For some reason you miss the point.. If she or any other celebrity goes about adopting a child from overseas they get week long coverage from it... Forget Ohio, if she adopted a child from Pittsburgh, she would not get the same coverage from it.. And the adoption agency that she was dealing with would make sure she had spent a good deal of time with that child before she could even think about adopting it.... Never mind.. You seem to be hung up on something else. So your right, every celebrity should adopt from overseas I see the logic in that now..

    Peace
     
  6. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    I lol every time that one pops up :cheers2:
     
  7. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    People should adopt from wherever they want to...
     
  8. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    Actually, rich peeps can send MONEY overseas, perhaps sponsor an ENTIRE orphanage, that they can set the level of care for.

    We have abused children, who just need a chance at a normal life;

    we have children needing foster care, that don't deserve to be thrown to the lions, as it were, while waiting for their folks to come back;

    on and on,

    so on and so forth.

    That is my "problem" with it all, but you're absolutely correct ~

    it's their money and their lives,

    so that's just my tough stuff! :rolleyes: :rofl:


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  9. RELAYER

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    Hey, at least she's adopting a child, that's more than I can claim in charity.
    The intentions, so long as they are not harmful, behind charity should never outweight the action itself.
     
  10. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    I'm not saying that adopting a child from a third world country is "better" than adopting a child from here. A person is adopting a child and that's all there is to it, they're giving a home to someone who needs it. I find the whole American children first mentality, very laughable, but not at all surprising.
    If Madonna, or whoever had chosen to adopt an American kid instead of a kid from Africa, I would feel the exact same way.
    If you feel so strongly about helping the good children of the USA, why dont you go ahead and adopt one? That seems like a better option than pointing the finger at someone and saying how what they're doing it's wrong or how it would be so much better if they did X thing instead.
     
  11. Shizzle

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    hmmm dnt no why africa but i guess its her choice, i mean shes a celeb so its not her thats gonna be really bringing the kids up, it be the nannys she hires
     
  12. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    WHOA, Nellie-Belle!!!

    Did you miss that last part? ;)

    But, seriously, think about it ~

    on the money it cost to go to Africa, find a child you want to adopt*, adopt it, bring it home and raise it,

    that same amount of money could have sponsored an ENTIRE ORPHANAGE for 18 years, and the entire population of the orphanage (teachers, children, all staff) would ALL have benefited.

    Sort of like what Oprah did, with her school, but not that costly.

    idk ~ imho, it just seems to make sense that if you could help 100 with the same resources that you would use to help just one,

    you'd help the 100.

    If life is precious, then ALL life is precious, and deciding who lives or dies (that's sort of what it amounts to...)

    isn't something i would put myself in charge of. EVER. :eek:

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    How in the WORLD do you "pick" just one, when there are SO MANY??? How could she walk through all the rest, without a glance backward? :confused:

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  13. Kizen

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    man im goin to the zoo
     
  14. babyhellfire

    babyhellfire Banned

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    why couldn't she do both---
    I mean , I have no idea what modonna has done because I honestly care very little about the celeb bullshit of this and haven't read the story... BUT, most that go into adoptions with children from other countries, adopt one while also putting money toward orphanages and care of children there.Many do, but they also adopt one while they are there.. the logic you presented is quite astoundingly stupid.


    Why make a trip to another country?,why does anyone- and you really can't say how much someone pays out for it, and where their money goes. I dunno about madonna(again,or care really) , but maybe she took one hundred overrpiced jets there- maybe she also put equal that in the economy in africa... it is really all useless speculation.

    why adopt a child,help it and be mother to a child- instead of helping loads of children, "deciding who lives and dies" ? You really can't say what the trip means for that person. You really can't say what sort ofterrible life in what sort of currupt orphanage a persona saves a child from.There are many issues with that in countries like africa and china.. putting money into that can be hard and not always go to the right place..

    as a person you make choices like what you compared to "deciding who lives and dies everyday".. and probably never realize it.You life isn't on the scale of someone like Madonnas with the amount you can help, but you make choices. you walk past the red cross donation bucket, the bum on the street , the orphanage, the hospital you decide to donate a little money to one... to one person, or maybe a tiny minute about to one place- or maybe you don't at all. You still buy lunch after wards, you probably still buy plastic nonsense to watch the new season of Scrubs on. If you are like oprah or madonna it is a big ass tv, in one of your 10 bathrooms..but you get my point."How in the world do you pick just one?"

    Maybe you take a person into your life, and give them something more valuable than money- you love them and are for them - you provide them with something they would never have a chance at where they were- and it is rewarding in its own way for you. .
    and perhaps because of them you remember where the came from and give back to that, or maybe you don't. sort of besides the point
    I can't really see getting mad at someone for making that choice though... it is all rather ridicoulous.jeez.
     
  15. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    ROFLMAO!!!

    You don't care,

    and yet you go on for paragraph after paragraph?

    Ugh, pardon me for asking, but when you say "most of them donate",

    who exactly are you talking about???

    Cripes. And my logic is suspect?!? Please.

    i didn't read any further than the first paragraph ~

    sorry. :rolleyes:


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  16. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    I'm pretty sure no one here is "mad at" Madonna. That would be silly.

    We're just not singing praises for her half-assedness.
     
  17. babyhellfire

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    wasting my typing then.

    I don't care what madonna does- my response was directed to your attitude about overseas adoption in general.
    my point was arguing the ridiculousness of the assessment that someone goes to another country and adopts a child instead of "saving 100".

    not that it matters, you only seem to understand what you type.you probably will chose not to understand my post anyway,:cheers2:
     
  18. lode

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    Well yeah, sponsoring an orphanage does do more good than adopting an African child if you consider 'good' as in affecting the most lives possible. It also does more good in that sense than adopting an American child.

    But it wont have as nearly as profound an effect on a single life, one that the new mother would get to grow with. Maybe that's what Madonna wants. I don't really care. I just think this whole thing is petty.
     
  19. babyhellfire

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    meh, I'd rather bitch about her weird looking arms ,bad music or bad career choices.
    than judge her for adopting a child
     
  20. daisymae

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    Hello kettle? This is the pot. You're black!

    Bitching about = judging
     
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