OK, I Know How To Grow, Where Do I Go From Here?

I've done extensive research on growing magic mushrooms, and I've decided to use the rice cake method. I ordered a 12cc syringe of B+ shroom spores, and they should be arriving soon. I will be growing in 2 jars for my first time, and i will save the rest of the spores.
Once my shrooms have grown, I will, of course, test them out. But what I want to know is how much should i sell them for, per mushroom? I've looked it up but i get like, 15 dollars per 1/8 and stuff like that. I need to know per shroom. I will be selling them fresh as I have heard fresh ones are more potent.
Thanks.:hat:

 

15 an 1/8? Lucky.. 35 around here.

Dont sell them fresh its a waste of time and shroom, there way more potent dried. I may be wrong but i doubt it cuz i've heard it many times. I believe i heard 50g fresh is comparable to 5g dried.

 

alritey. and if your paying 35 an 1/8th go to http://www.micro-supply.com/mushrooms.htm and buy a 12cc syringe for 15 bucks and grow your own.
read this straight from the site i bought my spores:
Psilocybin Mushroom spores are legal to sell and possess in every state except California, Georgia, and Idaho. Posession of fully grown magic mushrooms is illegal in every state in the United States except Florida.

 

I REALLY would love to grow some but i worry about the conditions and difficulty. I could either do it in my basement, or attic. Ones hot, ones cold. Parents wouldnt freak out to0 bad.

 

I will buy 15 per 1/8th any day. Given they are dried and look scrumptuous. :]

 

cookie monster, im 15 and im going to be growing them at my parents house (where i live lol) I found a really good guide, at first it seems complicated but thats because its really wordy. Now, some of the steps call for a pressure cooker and i dont have one, so to sterilize the jars with the rice in them, i put them in a pot of water and then boil it. heres the guide: www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/mus02.htm

 

man kid you are crazy, you want to sell single freshies from your expected fruitful lowly two jars, c'mon man use up the syringe, ya gotta account for possible contamination.

All these dreams of shroom selling grandeur, get your shroom farm going at full tilt before you think about selling, but if I were you I'd get really fried and dose all your friends.

dont get caught, if you grow in your parents pad they will get the brunt of legal action.

freshies are best but they dont store well, they lose potency when dried.

save up your pocket money and buy the damn pressure cooker.

 

wow, hahaha. ok. what is the advantage of the pressure cooker if i can sterilize my stuff free in boiling water? and im working on gettin more jars.

as for the rice, im lucky cuz my moms gone on an organic health rage. All we have is brown rice lol.

 

First off you really shouldn't come on and advertise that you are growing mushrooms (let alone in your parents house, big no no) AND selling them...but that's all you, personally I say you haven't read NEARLY enough and doing so will answer your own questions...oh and fresh and dried are essentially the same potency, there is the EXACT same amount of actual mushroom tissue in 10gs as there is in about 1g dried, the ONLY differences are fresh contain much water and both psilocin AND psilocybin, psilocin doesn't survive the drying process, HOWEVER, psilocybin is converted back to psilocin in the body; one really is no better than the other; finally, if you're successful NEVER advertise or let it be known and there really isn't much market for a per-shroom deal, it's 1/8's as a standard.

 

this is true. it is selfish and foolhardy to grow mushrooms in your parents' home.

i say don't grow. if you do grow, i say DONT SELL. it's a bad idea, and far less enjoyable than simply taking the mushrooms yourself and giving them to friends for free.

you will not have enough to sell if you are only doing two cakes, and yes, you can use boiling water but success rate, even if done perfectly, will be substantially lower.


but it sounds like you're using whole grain brown rice, which WILL NOT work without a pressure cooker and is not used to make cakes. you would have to do a casing. if you want to make cakes, use vermiculite and brown rice flour.


but your proposition is an absurdly bad idea. don't do any of this.

wait till you're an adult living on your own and grow for personal use only.

and yeah, you can't really sell by the mushroom anyway. there's a reason nobody does it - one mushroom is virtually never a full dose.

 

yeah yeah nesta. ive read your guide. dont tell me not to get caught. if i thought i would theres no way i would be doing any of this. Its too late to not grow, the spores are on their way and id rather not waste 15 bucks. As for selling... I'm sharing with my closest friends and selling cheaply to friends i trust. You're right about the two cakes thing. so im getting more jars. As for vermiculite and brown rice flour, they can be obtained at a gardening store and a giant or something rite? How would you make the cakes from them?

 

Mushrooms

How To Grow Magic Mushrooms


Psilocybe cubensis Growing Technique (page 3)


Procedure
***** Substrate Preparation

Take the lids from the ½ pint jars and use the drill or hammer and nail to poke holes in them. One hole per lid is sufficient, however some people prefer to use 2 or 4 holes, so they can inoculate the cake in more than one spot.

This has the advantage of faster colonization of the cake, since growth starts in several places. The disadvantage is that every time the syringe needle goes into the cake, there is a chance for contamination. So wipe the syringe with rubbing alcohol before inoculating every hole.

Most guides suggest using 4 holes. Make sure that the holes are not too close to the edge of the lid. About 3/4" (2 cm) in from the edge is sufficient. Holes In The Canning Lids


***** Mix Up The Substrate

Using the appropriate quantities as outlined in the table below, mix the vermiculite and brown rice flour together in the mixing bowl, using the large spoon. Add the water and mix thoroughly.

This will take some patience and will probably wear out your arm a bit. If you are concerned about the purity of the tap water in your area, you may want to used distilled water rather than tap water.

In most cases, though, tap water is fine. The recipe below often comes out just a bit more than what you need for the jars.

Simply discard any extra substrate. Don't try to pack it into the jars, because you want the substrate to be airy and fluffy for optimal growth.


***** The Amount Of Material For Each Jar Is

Vermiculite --- 2/3 cup (5.25 ounces)
Flour --- 1/4 cup (2 ounces)
Water --- 1/4 cup (2 ounces)

These amounts are for 1/2 pint (about 8 ounces or 250 ml) jars. Adjust the amounts accordingly if you use different size jars. For example if you doubled the size to 1 pint (about 16 ounces or 500 ml) jars, you would need double the amount of material for each jar.


***** Add Substrate To The Jars

Using the mixing spoon, fill each jar to within ¾" (2 cm) of the top of the jar. It is very important that the substrate mix be open and airy, not packed into the jar. Dump it in, shake any excess back into the bowl, but don’t pack it down at all. Mycelium will grow best in all those little open spaces.


***** Seal The Jars

Carefully wipe clean the exposed inner wall of the jar and the rim. Fill to the top with clean dry vermiculite, screw on the lid and band tightly, and cover the lid with a large square of aluminum foil, to prevent water droplets from entering.

Optionally, breathable tape such as cloth surgical tape, can be placed over the holes. Your jar is sealed and ready for sterilization.


***** Sterilizing The Jars

Place the finished jars in your pressure cooker or pressure canner, and cook them at 15psi for 45-60 minutes, according to the instructions for your pressure cooker/canner. Let the entire apparatus cool completely.

Do not try to open the pressure cooker before it is cool to the touch, and do not try to speed the cooling process, as a quick change in temperature could crack the jars.

Be sure to let the jars cool for several hours, because heat is often trapped in the center of the cake, even if the jar feels cool. This heat can kill your spores if you try to inoculate too soon after cooking.

It’s best if you can let your jars cool overnight. The jars are now sealed containers of sterile substrate. If you have done everything correctly, they can be stored indefinitely until you are ready to use them.


***** Steam Sterilization

I didn't have a pressure cooker or pressure canner the first time I grew magic mushrooms and I didn't want to spend money until I knew that my mushroom crop would be successful. So the steaming process was used for sterilization.

Any pot with tight closing lid, which can hold sufficient jars is fine. You want a hot environment that will kill germs in the jar but not add or remove water from the jars you are sterilizing.

In short, water is added to a pot, something is placed in the pot to raise the jars from touching the bottom and keep water from entering the jars. Jars are placed inside, and water is boiled for an hour or more.

First, you will need something to keep the bottom of the jars from touching the bottom of the pot. A three-piece vegetable steamer (pot, basket insert and lid) will do. Stainless steel vegetable steamers that fold out and stand on the bottom of the pot can also be used. You can even use small rocks or marbles. Then place the jars on top.

Add enough water to the bottom of the pot to cover about one half inch of the bottom of the jars. The layer of water on the bottom of the pan may touch the jars; care should be taken however to prevent boiling water from entering the jars.

Cover the top of the jars with a piece of aluminum-foil and tighten it with a rubber band. This will help prevent any water from boiling up and entering the jars. The extra water would increase the moisture content too much.

Gently steam the jars by boiling for an hour in a tightly covered pot. Keep the bottom of the pot filled with water by checking the water level and adding water as the steam evaporates.

A good tight fitting pot lid is essential for successful steaming. Be careful not to overheat the jars, as the substrate will dry out. A gentle constant boil is what is needed. The jars can be inoculated as soon as their inside temperature has dropped below 35°C (95°F).

I have had a 100% success rate using this method.

http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/pictures/mgg03.htm#steam

 

if you will reject sensible advice from people looking out for your welfare and that of your family more than you seem to be doing, how can you then expect them to advise you as to methodology?

your "extensive research" is sorely lacking if you haven't any idea how to use brf/verm mixture for a substrate. i suggest you head over to the shroomery and read much more, as this is not the place to work out such details.

also keep in mind that 15 bucks is a rather small amount of money, and does not represent an investment so large as to not be able to count your losses and wait until you're in a position to both do things properly and to do things with some level of safety for yourself and your loved ones.

about two years ago i invested 300 dollars for lighting equipment meant to grow cannabis. things worked out in such a way that i could not safely grow my herb. so i did not, despite an investment 20 times greater than yours. i am keeping said equipment and fully plan to make use of it when the time is appropriate.

freeze your spores and use them later. failing that, refrigerate them. failing that, store them in a cool, dark place and hope for the best. the shelf life of cubensis spores is decent, and will range from months to years depending on how well you store them.

 

Although I do not like it, I see you are right. I'll store my spores. For now.

 

i think thats a good idea. keep learning, and good luck when you finally get going on it!

if you haven't checked it out yet, look up "pf tek for simple minds" and read all you can at the shroomery.

if you have enough privacy you can grow at home before you move out, just keep in mind the ENORMOUS risks involved for yourself AND your parents - even if they are ignorant of your actions.

i myself first grew at age 17 while living at home, but it was a bad idea. thankfully i was careful with it, grew only for myself and to share with my girlfriend, and never sold it or spread around information about my activities. i had enough privacy to do it with relative safety, but had to ensure the safety of my parents as well. be careful man!

 

understood. maybe next year. in the meantime im going to try to make myself an expert. relatively speaking...

 

steaming jars doesn't work too well, is good for bulk straw in turkey bags though.

how much have we spent on grow gear, good gods it boggles the mind.

ever heard of a flee market? picked up my monster national with the big wingnuts that hold the lid down for like 10 bucks, try to find one with metal on metal seals and a pressure gauge, be sure though that the pop valves function or else it might explode.

300 isnt that much for lights.

 

i've never had a major issue with not using a pressure cooker, particularly considering i had only amounts for personal use. one or two would get contaminated occasionally, but for the most part it worked like a charm.

300 wasn't bad for the lamp, ballast, reflector, the whole nine yards. 400w HPS for when i get a good location. at the time i priced it online and it was an average price for the quality i was looking at. lower quality lighting systems could be found online, but at the time it was looking like it would be used in the near future and i didnt want to use a credit card and have things like that mailed and all sorts of things. i wanted to stick to shopping locally.

 

You dont need a fancy lighting rig for mushrooms.
I do suggest investing in an All American PC though.