Evolution

Is the way 'God' creates.

Thus..The entire issue is a moot point...
A matter of time scales...

WHO KNOWS that 'god' did not set 'our' reality in motion with a PLAN
To result in humans on earth.

Religion suggests god snapped his wisened fingers and 'poof'
adam and eve...
Anthropomorphism
"The act of attributing human forms or qualities to entities which are not human."

Occam suggests that..NO human has had more than the most fleeting glimps of such a direction of reality.

And states again
As the most harmonious with the principle of parsimony..

That rational understanding of evolutionary theory
And religious description of creation...

Are two perspectives on the same phenomena.

Occam

 

Two perspectives full of holes.
Niether is accurate....As we well know.

Lets toss the ball

 

I think you will find that most balls have holes in them. (there are exceptions, but consider the number of ping pong balls in existence, more people play beer pong and this game uses up tons of balls due to drunkeness- thus the high demand for ping pong balls).

How about the perspective that God has a save game point at 4000 bc.

---or---

The evolutionary nature of thought is taught outside of ourselves in the physical world.

 

"The notion that somebody literally made the world-- that is what is known as artificialism. It is the child's way of thinking: The table is made, so somebody made the table. The world is here, so somebody must have made it. There is another point of view involving emanation and precipitation without personification. A sound precipitates air, then fire, then water and earth-- and that's how the world becomes. The whole universe is included in this first sound, this vibration, which then commits all things to fragmentation in the field of time. In this view, there is not someone outside who said, 'Let it happen'". -Joseph Campbell

 

lol.
Unintentional universe theory.

 

...okay.

 

Kharakov
1:
So if we dont work out how HE WANTS...he can RELOAD?

Occams Life..And the LIFE of humanity..And all life...
Is more than the whim of a higher being.

If you wish to be a slave....so be it.

2:
As is the evolutionary nature of the physical world. Which underpins thought.

Occam

 

Or you could just call evolution god... 'twould amount to about the same...

 

cept for all the miracles and shit we keep blathering on about to no avail.

 

lol

"In bizarro world, the slave is the master." Comic book guy (voice).

 

to me, Lao-Tzu was very accurate when he said ' the best leaders lead from behind. ' Jesus served, which is the best way to lead.
So in my world, the slave is the master.

In bizarro world, there are slaves. period

 

Human psychology and neurology are at a point right now where they know for a fact that the mind's need for religious closure is a part of the brain that is supposed to build hope and keep you alive longer. ..Hence you will never learn truth until you deliberately seek it. People will, for the most part, believe that there is a higher power whether it is there or not. Think about that.

I'm not saying anything either way, but you guys need to do more research and post less on the subject.

 

WhisperingWoods

Human psychology and neurology knows no such thing.. [as fact]
The mind 'may' need closure...

But WHO SAYS it must be religious?

Occam thinks there may be direction..[a higher power]

But he is not ignorant enought to say he knows what that is..

Is that not agnosticism?

As to doing more research
How do you know how much others have done?
Occam has been reading on the topic for 3 decades.

Occam

 

BlackGuard.

There are no salves and masters...There are only humans.

The descriptions of what we think are human ones...
Not real phenomena...

There is no slavery in reality...
It. like beauty and justice.
Are words to define human concepts...

Occam

 

Oops mis-type, I didn't mean for a fact literally. They have done tests and received plenty of data that shows increased activity in a specific part of the brain during prayer (to god of choice by devout religious people), zen meditation, etc, etc.

I have no internet sources. Dont discount this because of it though... try a google search for the written document. I saw this on the discovery channel!

 

About the brain and spiritual experiences: "Activity in the amygdala, which monitors the environment for threats and registers fear, must be damped. Parietal-lobe circuits, which orient you in space and mark the sharp distinction between self and world, must go quiet. Frontal- and temporal-lobe circuits, which mark time and generate self-awareness, must disengage."
exerpt from: http://www.shinzen.org/shinsub2/_disc1/0000003c.htm


What I find most interesting about spiritual experiences and the human brain is that enlightenment transcends religious boundaries. Whether god created our brains or our brains created god, one thing remains sure-- that the experience of god is endemic to human nature. The origin of god, for all peoples, is the same. Religions are all separate branches of the same tree.

 

mother_nature's_son
Whether god created our brains or our brains created god, one thing remains sure-- that the experience of god is endemic to human nature.

Mother Natures Son

False..
Occam has not experienced god.
He has experienced much..but nothing called god.
He experiences reality...
Is that what you speak of?

Is reality..god...?
Then why does religion and science disagree?
Because religion is contradiction
And science is the method to resolve contradiction

Occam

 

Occam,

Yes, reality is what I speak of.

Religion becomes a contradiction when people interpret its symbolism as fact. Otherwise, religion and science are not mutually exclusive entities.

'Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.' -Albert Einstein

 

I think people can interpret symbolism of their life without making it a weird religion.

It's even maybe a key to discover how magic are all ur living slice of time.

(didn't meant to teach to anybody)


If once you seek enlightenment,
stop defining it as being somewhere,
not in u, or in other being
in u, or not in other being

It's just there

Umm forget that thing


Choose when to recognize as being true those symbols with others,
is the most exciting part of my life.

To play or not to play?
But still honest and experiencing. With who?


Could one feel deprived? Could I answer I am tired?

 

Symbolism can be applied to one's life in great ways...
It can be very beneficial for growing spiritually, for learning...
But factual interpretations are like poison...
They contaminate the mind... with the illusion of an absolute truth that can be written down and spoken...
Such truth does not exist for mankind... and never will...
Truth can only be experienced... subjectively...
Through quieting the mind that will never have all the answers...
Through tuning into the vibration of the universe... of god...