Ok so I feel really shit

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maybe youre just a no-hoper and you therefore need to spend all the time in bed. thatd be awesome, if bedsores didnt exist

 

lol thats what people with really severe cfs do xD wish i could spend all my time in bed, get me out of dealing with all the other shit lol

 

My friend used to be veggie, but she was getting really ill, tired etc. similar to you and she tried loads of things, supplements and stuff and none of it really helped. In the end her doctor told her she had to start eating meat again or she was just going to get worse. She eats it now and she's fine. There must be something in it we don't know about.. you might have to do the same and start eating it again.

 

im glad she is better yea ive got no problem with eating it again, its just my morals get caught up with supermarket bought stuff and even resturants... i could convince my fave to go local loll xD mmm nandos.. i miss nandos... im also worried about the cramps, i had a pinch of fish yesterday and have had stabbing cramps since grgrggrr

 

Depression seems to be a pretty common thing on this board, i suffered a small bit of depression in my youth, i was the guy in the class that everyone picked on for no reason. Just bad luck but i took it pretty bad. I also have a friend who is going through the most textbook depression, he has dropped out of college and set up camp in his living room and thats all he does bar go to work.

but anyway about your symptoms, I would suggest Iron Tablets, and a lot of them from the looks of your diet you are getting none and it will run you the hell down without it, very imprtant for women, also you should make regular appointments with a psychiatrist, only way to truly beat depression is to talk your way out of it

 

ive had councelling and am over all the issues that gave me it. but as i said im coming off anti depressants so im bound to feel like shit lol. ill try iron supplements but i have tried multivitamins before and they did nothing for me- also my doc said there are no clinical trials to prove they work.. so meh. sorta looking forward to eating meat again ive never had steak before.. but im craving it so bad xD

 

definetly go get yourself a steak it will do you the world of good,

 

yeah, when i read your first post, i thought "that girl needs to eat a regular diet".
now dont get me wrong, i totally support vegetarianism (my bf is one) and i completely agree with your moral reasons and have similar opinions myself.
but you really need to make sure your diet is balanced. you cant just cut out meat and expect to be fine, your body needs it! or a good substitute.
and i do think its reasonable to say that some people cant just cut out meat and be healthy.
ive heard many people say that they tried to be veggie/vegan but felt so tired and shitty all the time that they had to go back to eating meat.

if you have a health food store near you, they should carry organic, free range meat.

of course im not saying your cfs is caused by being veggie, its totally separate. but it might help you to really pay attention to your diet and make sure youre getting everything you need and plenty of energy producing food.

 

Yeaa ta ^^ thinking about it my cfs has gotten worse since ive been a near vegan... I'm defo going back to eating meat corr i hope there is a nandos up north xD

thanks alot guys

 

we all just wanna help, if your body is healthy it will make it much easier for the mind to be

 

word^^ ... i was in a slump parallel to yours a few years back and i noticed changing my diet and being healthier totally helped me, also you have to make make up your mind to show some resolve and not let things like cfs and depression beat you. its a great feeling to take pride in the fact that you can beat these things you just have to know in your head that those things dont control you and ultimately you have control of how you feel. it may sound a little cliche but you can be a strong person and you can beat whatever obstacles that come across your path. mental illness symptons are heavily dependent on the your attitude. try to keep positivity and optimism in your life and that can hide and or eliminate these negative symptoms you speak of. i dont know if any of that makes sence to you but hopefully it helps maybe a little

 

Hey, didn't get to replying to this coz I saw it just as I was off to bed last night and didn't have my sensible hat on.
Obviously I know your CFS is a problem in its own right, so allowing for that...

Re diet. It's really good that you want to do the right thing, and it's maybe just as important for your mental wellbeing to eventually achieve your dietary goals as it is to make sure your body is properly nourished and able to deal with things.
Maybe do some research or bookshop browsing and get hold of a good basic vegan recipe book, learn properly about the nutritional principles, and maybe have one vegan day a week - but not just fruit, toast, pasta and tomato sauce - a proper fully balanced day's meals, with all the essential amino acids, suitable replacements for your usual iron/minerals etc.

Gradually you will build up the knowledge and shopping habits, and maybe go up to 2 vegan days a week etc as you get more confident.

In the meantime, you can still source the best animal products you can find. I know it's pretty easy in the U.K. to get organic alternatives for everything. Even if it's not ideal, at least your money wont be supporting really shitty farms, and you'll be adding to the statistics that show consumers are caring more, which will help put the right pressure in the right places.


If your parents aren't being helpful, I wouldn't bother trying to rely on them too much, because you will just end up feeling let-down and more frustrated. But that's just coming from someone with bad experiences in trying to rely on parents lol

What are the main sources of your depression?

 

sounds like ur having a real shitty time mate, sorry to hear

it also sounds like you need to see a nutritionalist about your diet, to make sure you are getting all the things you need. also have u seen a doctor about the cfs? have u tried asking your doctor about ways to talk to your family about things? or maybe even asking the doctor to explain the whole deal to them so they understand, and you dont get fustrated.

if you want to eat organically and locally, there are definitly ways to do this without it affecting your health in a negative way. there are farmers markets etc around, also try finding out about the nearest organic free range farm for meat etc, and buying seafood only from a good fishmonger and ask to for the stuff that isn't farmed and fed pelleted food etc so the food you get into your system is not only fresh, organic and local, but it will taste a whole lot better too

and if you are not eating a wide range of foods and meeting all your requirements, then its a big bad nono, esp with the cfs, anyways hope u feel better, all the best

 

good man.

 

Well, I studied health in post secondary education. I'm still thinking that it's panic. If it was asthma it would feel like you were breathing threw a straw, my mother has it. You are eating poorly, you probably don't have enough iron. Until you can get decent red meat, I would suggest spinach salads.

 

anyone else here the popeye theme when they read that?

 

i'm popeye the sailor man, i'm popeye the sailor man...
damn where's that song coming from, or is it all in my head?

 

i think someone may be singing it in the background

"looks around for source of music"

 

Hehe i hate spinach!! but i guess i should give it a go again xD

yea ive seen a doc about my cfs and am getting a formal diagnosis in may : ) so after that i might be able to get some sort of allowanceor even a bus pass xD

ive talked to docs and seen people about my depression, and its all cool- but sometimes i just get it randomly about nothing which isnt cool lol. but amy mainly its about friend trouble, feeling lonely, things not going my way or to plan, people not listening to me/i feel invisible --> lonely again lol.

thanks so much everyone : )

Corr i wanna support little cute farms : D

my sisters are still giving me shit about becoming a meat eater again... and if i say its for my health i know they and mum will laugh and make some excuse to humiliate me i know they dont mean to, it just runs in the family xD thankfuck im away this week : D

on a lighter note, i made felt dreads today cheered me up ^^ my dreads look so awesome with them in xD sooo colourful, i love it!! ill have some pics up when i get back next week <3

 

I didn't read the all the post and stopped here.

I was vegan for almost 2 years and couldn't do it anymore due to health complications. It was the hardest decision morally I ever made to start eating meat again. But your post really said everything that I was thinking. It's tough. But the fact of the matter is, NOT EVERYONE CAN BE A VEGAN. It's just biologically impossible. Now others can thrive on it as their body and metabolic type do best with complex carbohydrates. Other like me need a significantly larger amount of animal protein a day to function. Plant protein just doesn't cut it.