Sedation from 2c's?

Does anyone else become extremely sedated after consuming any of the 2c's? I've always noticed that 2c-e seems to sedate the fuck out of me, but I usually take pretty high doses, so I always attributed it to mental and physical exhaustion. However, today, I took a a rather small dose of 2c-i(27mg) and became extremely lethargic and would even go so far as to say that it felt like had just smoked a fatass blunt. lol I almost went to sleep while watching The Price Is Right, actually. My cousin had 15mg of 2c-i a week or so ago and while he was tripping, he turned to me with the sleepiest lookin eyes ever and said "dude.....I feel like I just took about 15 xanax bars". He later turned to me and said "I feel like I'm in NyQuil-mode dude". haha

Does anyone else experience these effects?

 

2C-C actually has a sedating effect, although the other 2C's are not known for this. However, I find 2C-E to have a heaviness to it and a lot of physical relaxation. 2C-B and 2C-I are definitely not sedating, many report physical stimulation.

 

From my experiences almost any of the 2c's brings me to that sedated state everytime. Maybe not for the whole journey, but most of it. Quite the opposite of LSD where you want to go out, adventure and solve the world.

 

The only part of the experience that lacks any sedation, for both 2ce and 2ci, is the comeup. After the comeup though, I always feel extremely laid back and relaxed(physically, that is), even with 50-60mg of 2ce. Like I said, I always attributed it to exhaustion, but today's dose of 27mg of 2ci was hardly enough to exhaust me, mentally or physically, but I was actually finding it hard to stay awake and am still slightly sleepy, even after having had a full night's sleep.

 

You seem to be in the same boat as me. 2ce and 2ci are the only psychedelics that I've tried where I could even think about sleeping. lol 2cb may have been similar, but the only time I tried 2cb I was also on 4 blotters of a DOx(not sure which) so I really don't know how I reacted to 2cb.

 

i'm perfectly content layin in bed listening to music on my 2ce trips. there are times when i feel like i should get up and do something, but i'm always having such a great time laying there, that i usually don't.

sometimes it alternates between the want/need to "get up and go" and the sedated feeling and just laying around. i usually lay down or at least sit for the comeup to minmize the nausea.

if i'm alone i feel the "sedation" more than if i'm tripping with a buddy. but still, my friend and i spend a lot of the trip laying on (separate) couches.

 

I do that a lot too. While 2ce makes my body feel as though it's full of energy, I just feel tired as fuck and extremely lethargic and I can barely keep my eyes open sometimes. Plus, when I'm laying down or even just relaxing in a comfortable chair while on 2ce, I seem to be tripping harder than when I'm moving around. Like if I'm moving around and letting some of the energy out, the 2ce loses some of it's power, until I sit down and zone out some more. lol 2ce is strange man.

I also always start to feel and hear the electricity in my eyeballs when I'm staying still and not moving, but when I move, that sensation goes away. Odd. I noticed the same electricity in my eyeballs this morning on the 27mg of 2ci. That is a trippy ass feeling, dude.

 

i dunno about this electricity feeling in your eyes, but maybe it's just a different way of explaining a similar effect...

and don't get me wrong, i like to get up and walk around my apt, change the music, get something to drink or maybe eat, PISS...(2ce seems to make me piss just as much as drinking), wash my face, take a shower?

but my favorite thing to do (except maybe lay in bed with the music loud, and explore the CEVs) is go outside! most of my trips were this winter at night, and going outside then was so awesome. if it was snowing, even better. i said once to my friend "it's like 2ce snow" imagining that the flakes were 2ce. they were the biggest chunkiest flakes i've ever seen. the color of the early night sky - the deepest blue. i think 2ce helped me gained a new appreciation for the winter.

goin for a walk in the park at 11 or midnight with my headphones on. that was an adventure.
i tripped once or twice in the day, and went for a bike ride the last time. that was sweet. i went along a river, stopped on a bridge and watched the water flow underneath. the wind on my skin was amazing.


so TNS, i know that you usually take 40-50 mg of 2ce, but have you ever tried a more standard dose...like 20 mg or less? i've never taken more than 20 mg (i know i'm repeating myself) and i actually think my "sweet spot" is like 17 or 18. if i ever get anymore, that's probably the dose i'll stick with. maybe vary it a little. when i ate 20 was the only time i puked, (i ate 20 a few times, only puked once) and i don't think it increased the visuals that much at all, and certainly not as much as it increased the nausea/sick body feeling, temperature fluctuations, etc. i think the higher dosage you take, the negatives increase more than the positives. with that being said, i haven't seen for myslef, but 18 mg trips me out pretty good. i'd maybe try 25 mg, but i don't think i'd ever go higher.
so you should take a small dose for research's sake, since i won't be taking 50 mg

 

I like being outside on 2ce too. It's trippy to sit in a busy naighborhood and watch people walking down the road with their family or friends. It makes me smile to see them being all happy and shit while I'm trippin balls. haha My favorite thing is to sit outside on the porch in a comfortable ass chair in the middle of the night with some music playing.

I also enjoy taking showers while on 2ce. That shit gets crazy and feels like I'm in a wind tunnel or some shit, with sound effects and all.

I don't piss very much at all when I'm trippin, whether it be 2ce or some other psychedelic. I always feel like I gotta shit though, and when I do shit, that shit gets intense as fuck dude. haha And I agree....the wind does feel amazing while tripping.

I've tried lower doses. I think I'm a bit hardheaded though, because I barely got any effects at all with 15mg, and it ony lasted for an hour or so, then I was pretty much back at baseline. I've taken a couple of 25mg doses, but I was trippin on other shit too, so I'm not sure how 25mg of 2ce is, really, but I had a pretty good trip on 27mg of 2ci today, but it was definitely lacking intensity. I took a 33mg dose and was trippin pretty hard and watching Fear and Loathing, but it wasn't nearly as intense as higher doses. At 40mg of 2ce, with 15mg of 2ci, it gets pretty intense, but not nearly as intense as 50mg of 2ce. When I took 63mg of 2ce, I felt like I pretty much ceased to exist as a human being and for a while I am pretty sure I became pure electric energy for a little while. Then I snapped out of it and seemed to become part of the leather chair I was sitting in. haha I was in the process of watching Grandma's Boy when all of this was happening. All I remember of the movie though is seeing the beginning of it, then all of the electric energy and conjoining with the chair took place and the next thing I knew, the movie was ending. It was a crazy trip.

 

yea, i'm sure those higher doses are insane, but i feel like it's best to keep it somewhat low (for myself, not sayin it about you). i almost freaked out a little on 20 mg, so i might lose it if i take even 30, put 50 or 60 i couldn't even imagine.

i said the same thing about acid. i couldn't imagine a tenstrip, the most i've taken is 3. but if i were to take a "hero" dose of something, i'd want it to be acid, since it's known to be kinda safe. it'd be a lot more realistic to do it with 2ce though, since i can't even find acid...

 

this may sound retarded but what the fuck are you guys talking about? lol

 

a synthetic chemical called 2ce. it's one of many 'phenylethylamines.' it was first made by alexander shulgin, a biochemist from berkley. it makes you trip. it's awesome but it's potentially long term, negative side effects are unknown because it's relatively new, unlike LSD, shrooms, and mescaline.

read about it on wiki and erowid.org
or on here and bluelight.ru

 

Actually, with higher doses, less of your mind is left in reality and you're more entranced, so there is less thought of negative side effects and it almost seems more peaceful than moderate doses. Still chaotic as fuck, but in a totally different way. It's kinda hard to explain, but that's how it's always seemed for me.

 

i guess i was speaking more of long term negative effects....if there are any it'd probably come from repeated use and/or high doses. and since i've definitely repeatedly used....

but i know what you mean, sometimes if you take a small dose of something it can kinda be a tease, or you don't get all the way there...but once you do you just 'go with the flow.' a low dose might make you anxious and think too much, but on a high one you can't.

with that 20 mg i though that i might have gone too far, that i was insane - and the way i dealt with it was just accepting it, and decided to see if i'd be normal the next day

 

During one of my 2ce trips, at 40mg with with 15mg of 2ci, I almost started to freak out because I was outside in the middle of the night and hearing all kinds of crazy noises and I was thinking about fukt up shit in my life, and I started seeing demons and shit when I was closing my eyes. The way I dealt with it was by actually talking to the trip, itself, and saying outloud "what the fuck are you gonna do to me, trip? Make me depressed? I've already got depression. Give me heartache? I've already got heartache. Send demons after me? Motherfucker, I AM a demon". hahaha Problem solved. I basically let myself and the trip know that nothing could fuck with me, and I felt better, almost instantly.

 

for me it was more like "holy shit self, your are fucked up! you might be so far gone that you'll never come back." i was picturing myself having to tell my loved ones, having to go to school and work while permatripping, not be able to function in daily life... but then i was like wait, that doesn't happen, you'll be fine tomorrow.

that all seemed to happen in like 5 seconds, but it felt like quite a while of mass confusion and terror. i couldn't really communicate to my friend either, we were both just sayin how wierd the trip was, whatever was goin on at the time....
i def see how that could have gotten bad, or developed into a bad trip...

 

ohhh ok... I was totally confused.. thanks.. lol

 

yea they have weird names, and they aren't very well known. i remember when i first read about them...."wtf? hmmmm, interesting"

 

I would LOVE to be permatripping. Everytime I'm tripping, I'm always thinking to myself "Goddamn it.....it sucks so much that this will end in a few hours".

You've probably read a couple of my posts where I talked about the bad trip my cousin had on 25mg of 2ce, but just in case, I'll post it again. haha

I had some 2ce and my cousin wanted to try it, so I measured out 25mg for him to take and 50mg for me to take. Within 30 minutes, we were both peakin.....hard. haha It had never hit me that quick and it still hasn't hit me that quick again, but my cousin wasn't ready for it. He got locked into looking at he ceiling fan and it made him start having hallucinations that he was being chopped to bits by some kind of circular blade or a woodchipper or something, and it was all downhill for him, from there. Also, everytime he looked at a person on tv, he saw a knife in thier chest or in thier neck and he thought everyone on tv was killing eachother, even though we were watching Little Bear(a children's cartoon) and Sports Center. Then he started looking at the ceiling fan again and starting thinking that we were part of a scratched cd that was skipping, and his words actually started skipping when he talked, and he was actually sounding like a skipping cd. Then he started seeing bugs and snakes crawling out of the carpet, which he didn't like. Then he started seeing smoke and flames coming from the carpet and he thought his house was on fire. He kept seeing the smoke and flames until he eventually thought he was in hell and I was Satan. My hair is short and brown, but when he looked at me, he said that he saw me with long black hair and horns coming out of my head. It was some crazy shit man, and I'm surprised I maintained my composure and was able to calm him down, but it's a stressful job to trip-sit someone while I'm tripping on 50mg o 2ce. I shudder to think at what would've happened if I started freaking out too. That would've been bad, but I'm proud of the way I handled it and he said he was glad he was tripping with me, instead of someone else, because he trusts me more than he trusts anyone. It could've been a lot worse than it was, and he says that he's glad he went through it, even though he'll probably never take any more 2ce. lol

 

permatripping might be cool for a while, but eventually it'd get old. and those fuckin responsibilities...hard to take care of while trippin your ass off. it wouldn't be "special" anymore.

that trip i'm talking about was actually with a kid i met from the forums. so we obviously don't know each other very well, but i feel like he was a good guy to have around when i was almost freakin out. he dind't really do much to help, but the point is that he didn't make a big deal about it, and try to help me and therefore make it worse...like "omg are you alright dude!"
maybe he just didn't know what was goin on im my head
he wasn't trippin quite as hard as me

i think i played a part in handling myself too of course