my bestfriend is into e bigtime shes been eats give or take 20 e pills on a weekly basis i just want to know what other people who did e thought because shes the only person i know who takes it on a regular basis also how often would you recomend doing e? is every weekend ok or will that rot your brain
That is not healthy at all. I think its recommended spacing usage at least two weeks apart, preferably a month. Her seritonin levels must be fucked if shes poppin 20 rolls a week.
I have done molly about 6-7-8 times now (good luck counting) over about 2-3 months and i am noticing distinct changes both in mood and cognitive functions. mood: irritability goes down, aggression goes down, anxiety goes up (normally low serotonin increases irritability and aggression but some people report those happen to lower due to permanent shifts in attitude after molly, i am one such person. i've learned being nice is nice ) these effects are VERY subtle and are most dramatic during the crash, duh, and then go away. My first crash lasted 4 hours. My second one lasted a day. Since then they've been lasting several days. If you graphed this out as a wave function, you could see exactly what's happening; i'm not giving my brain enough time to recover, and it's taking longer and longer to bounce back to baseline. cognitive: i make a lot more typos in these forums. Like, a lot more. Specifically ones I don't catch until after I hit the post button, and some I don't catch at all. but not just keyboard slips, i mean like switching "to" and "too", stuff like that, which I can normally do very well. It might be absolutely nothing though, I may just be reading into things. I notice my memory after doing molly is horrible for about a week. It's to the point where at about my midweek crash, say 3-4 days after rolling, I don't even remember that I rolled. I go through my whole day thinking "Fuck, what is wrong with me today, I haven't felt this bad in months!" and then later that evening or the next day it'll suddenly come back to me, I fuckin rolled 3 days ago, DUH. luckily none of mdma damage is permanent. in fact, it's technically not even damage. It's called 'neurological adaptation', and it goes away if you stop using molly for a few months, though it may take as long as a year or two (but thats usually for much heavier users than even your friend). heres some source http://thedea.org/mental.html
I wouldnt say its good, but its not horrible... Its not gonna like melt their brain or anything me and my brother did a half jar in three days and we were doin a jar every two weeks for like a month and still kept going for two more months just not as much due to lack of money... Having them stop would be a good idea but its not gonna kill them unless them get a bunch of bad pills...
i predict your girl is going to have some problems for a bit bro... and thats if she stops right now and switches to strict alchohol and cannabis diet for 6 months or so
Um...ecstasy is really hard on your body. It weakens the immune system, depletes vitamins and minerals and is infamous for causing temporary short-term memory problems. I take 2-3 pills biweekly and I haven't noticed any problems past the hangover day, and I LOVE these pills, they're my favorite drug, but 20 caps? Jesus Christ, no one on earth should take that much e! It sounds like she has a psychological dependence on this to me. I don't know her so I can't say, but I can definitely tell you that 20 pills is incredibly bad for you. Your body needs time to recover every single time you do it. If I binge-drank until I blacked out five nights a week, everyone would recognize that as a problem, why isn't anyone more concerned about this? If this is a long-term thing (not just a crazy month but an ongoing thing) I would seriously, seriously, seriously say something. That amount of any drug is not normal and it's nowhere near safe.
Your friend is wasting her money. Each time you do E it takes 4 days to a week for your serotonin stores to fully recover, meaning each additional time she does it in a week the trip is pure shit. Even 2 times in a month can cause the second time to have lessened effects. Tell her that, it might just blow her mind enough to save her some dinero.
For the record a chick I've been chilling with is well over 20 per week. She went through 20 in 2 days last time we were together.
the most you can achieve by taking lots of "pure" molly will get you jittery and sweaty. if you dont give at least a week or two for your seratonin to get back to normal you will feel way less euphoria. i just finished off about 1 gram of pure crystals in about a week. 0.3 for every roll maybe pop another .1 each time to internsify. i took one round on sunday. then i rolled again on monday, which sucked but i had some oxy 80s so really didnt matter that much. and then i waited about 3 days to finish the rest off and i only had a good roll for about 30 mins. then the rest was just that cold/sick feeling
thats way too much man. im guessing she is fairly young (ie in her 20s), messing with your brain chemistry like that will catch up with you eventually, probably during a time when you are struggling with normal/other life problems that every person encounters. thats when the shit hits the fan. another thing is that who knows what is in the pills she takes anyway, can be different chemicals at different times/batches. periodically pills are extremely strong/weak, and overdosing on a basically 'unknown dose of an unknown chemical' is quite easy. the strongest 'e' tablet i had was mental , luckily I only took half eh? (im certain it wasnt MDMA that made it so strong). im not against e (MDMA). I think it is the best drug iv ever tried. but it should be treated with respect........its obvious that 20 pills/week is too much, unless they are just vitamins tablets.........
You can still roll....and obviously she is feeling the effects, or else she wouldn't be wasting her money. E isn't physically addictive like say...opiates...so I think she would notice if she wasn't feeling ANY effects and stop for a bit. I used to roll 3 or 4 nights a week sometimes...and every Friday + Saturday for religiously for around 10 months. I noticed some short-term problems, but nothing that had a lasting effect on me. I would tell her to slow down....and if she doesn't want to, at least tell her to start taking 5-htp and more vitamins...and pre and postload before and after each roll.
For the record, Dr. Alexander Shulgin, the father of MDMA, recommended that it be taken no more than 4 time per YEAR. This is certainly very conservative, and more and more research shows that E is not nearly as bad for you as drug warriors would like you to believe, but still, Dr. Shulgin's opinion is one to be respected. MDMA is an amazing substance, and should be treated with respect. Please talk to your friend. P.L.U.R.
If we all were to "respect" Shulgin....we wouldn't be taking it at raves and calling it Ecstasy, let's be clear. Can't respect him in one aspect, and not on the other.
Good point, though we can still all agree that old Sasha knows more about the potential toxicity of MDMA than most of us. P.L.U.R.
Really? I didn't think your rolls would be as hard or anywhere near as good as the first one if you dropped more than once every couple of weeks.
Some people claim that it does lose its magic after the first time... I never noticed this. I don't really understand why it would be losing its magic, anyway... but it depends on the person.
I knew a girl who was doing 10 pills a DAY. I dont know whats going on with her now, havent seen her in a year.
It's not an abstract loss of magic, although that is there as well (since you know what to expect), its also really chemical. It just doesnt hit you as hard and you dont 'explode' as much
