Asshead Bupe/Suboxone Docs

So two years ago I decided, after hitting the floor once too often and winding up in the ER spitting up charcoal and having precipitated withdrawals from Narcan, that I was ready to get clean again and stay that way this time (I'd been clean for 7 years, I was the NA guru, you know the deal). I'd been hearing good things about Suboxone, but I'd never tried it before (I'd heard I could get it on the street but I was, at the time, sticking to my own and my ex-husband's prescription meds and not engaging with street-level dealers). I found the one hospital in my county that was licensed to detox with subs and, in horrible pain from wd's, I went to their ER and asked to be admitted to the detox. They let me lie on a gurney IN A HALLWAY of the ER for 8 hours, with all of the lovely withdrawal effects getting worse and worse, until finally that evening they brought me upstairs. I was dosed about an hour after being admitted with 8/2; about 20 minutes later I felt better and an hour later I felt almost normal. They kept me in the detox for 48 hours then discharged me to a sober house with a script and an appointment with a doc who took Medicaid. The doc put me on 8/2 3 times a day; I was at that dose for 10 months, then we decided I would start tapering. So at my next appointment he told me to break my morning dose in half, and keep it at that dose for a month, blah blah ray ray.

Well PS - the practice that my sub doc was treating me out of decided to stop taking Medicaid. I showed up for my next appointment all proud of myself for sticking to the dose exactly, and when I got there, the receptionist told me, "Oh, sorry, Dr. Donothing can't see you unless you pay $150." No phone call warning me, no opportunity to find another doc that takes my Medicaid HMO, nothing. So now there I was stuck with two days' worth of subs left and no way to get another script. I was pissed. The doc felt kind of bad (it was practice policy - he's only there once a week, it's an outpatient drug and alcohol treatment center) so he wrote me for a week and said "Good luck."

I have spent the past few months searching high and low for a new doc. ALL of them, it seems, want $500 for an initial consult and then $150 - $200 per visit, and they want you to come in every week or every two. It sucks ass. I ended up hurting my back in a really bad fall at the end of January and wound up on narcotic pain meds anyway, so now I'm back on THAT effing merry-go-round, but what the hell man? Suboxone/bupe was supposed to be like some miracle drug, letting you live like a normal person instead of dosing at the clinic every day. I ended up fully addicted to the subs, and 10 weeks after I stopped them I still fully felt like ass.

I'm sorry this rant is so effing long, but what a racket! And all a doc has to do to be able to write it is to get that little "x" in front of their DEA number - my doc told me it's about the easiest thing in the world, but none of them want "junkies" hanging around their offices I guess.

Okay, rant over.

 

just get some off the street. you definitely don't need three a day. i doubt anyone does unless theyre doing like 2 grams of dope a day. from a half gram a day habit i started taking 8mg a day and quickly tapering. because of the long half life, tapering is really easy with subs. i swear if you start at 8mg and taper down you can be fully off in 2 months tops.

 

When i was on subs the doc started me at 2 - 8/2 a day. way more than i needed for an 80mg a day habit. I feel like these docs just get you addicted so you keep coming back. I was paying $200 every two weeks to see my doc and he was such a dick he would write me my script in his hallway and wouldnt even take me into his office and ask me how everything was going. After a week I started a taper on my own. Within a three weeks I was down to a 1/4 of a 8/2 a day. Then i started skipping days before i knew it i was clean and feeling great in a little less than a month.

 

^^^ haha yep. i think they over prescribe because they HAVE to or else they wont really make any money off it. if someone can detox in a month or 2 and are taking at most 1 pill a day theres not alot of money to be made. but if they start you at 3 a day and leave it for months and months and then taper from there its like a fucking goldmine. whatever though, at least suboxone is out there, you just gotta figure out your own doses/regimen

 

It's a total effing racket, I swear. Like with my guy if you missed an appointment for ANY reason you had to do a whole other ($500) intake. "Gee doc, my leg got cut off on the way in so I went to the ER." "Sorry, that'll be $500." Asshats.

 

That totally sucks. It would probably cheaper to buy the Suboxone off the street.

 

wow, sounds like these suboxone docs are real dickeads.
there really trying to rob every dollar they can out of these users.
i really hope i don't have to go down that road someday..

 

I know, and I was all excited initially about it because my insurance covered it. Now I'm looking at kratom; I just wish someone would tell me what my best bet is on that before I go ordering something that doesn't work.

 

kratom never did shit for me. seems like it works for people who aren't addicted or don't have a high tolerance, but thats it.

i could be wrong

 

I've been all over the net this morning looking for it. Also poppy pods, but I can't seem to find them, either. I have one perc 10/325 and one 5 mg. valium left and I have to go have dinner with my SO's parents in like three hours. Gack.

 

^^ i'd help ya if i could, but i don't really know anything about it either.
but i was told that the higher your tolerance is, the less likely it would have any effect on you.
but i think you have a low tolerance to opiates right?
if so, i'd say go ahead and order it.
as for preperation on how to take it, i can't help ya there.
good luck

 

drugs.com has all sorts of posts on sub tapering. thats all that forum is. people addicted to shit and trying to get off it.

 

someone hacked my account ignore this

 

It's not that I want to trade one addiction for another; it's just that it's way so much easier to get the kratom (cheaper too). I might start a poppy farm in my kitchen window, lol. My tolerance is pretty low these days - 4 -6 mg of dillies will make me feel pretty nice, so I ordered the powdered bali from Kratom King. We'll see.

 

You are such a little prissy spoiled brat. You expect the doctor & nurse to work for free just because you want the easy way out of using dope. Or better yet, only when the government won't pay for you to kick. So fucking ridiculous. Subs are a miracle drug -- you fucking get a prescription from a doctor, not a clinic, and fill the prescription at a fucking pharmacy. And subs are supposed to be used just like methadone -- you slowly decrease your dose (most of SWIM's people have quit taking subs for no longer than one month, going from in 2 cases, a gram a day of quality tar)


Attention: YOU ARE A FUCKING JUNKIE. Not because you like to get high, but because when it's no longer convenient to get high (likely because you have a tolerance now, boohoo) you expect the govt. & other people to just pay for you to quit with subs. No, not you actually pay the doctor out of your paycheck (if you have a fulltime job, which i doubt) and fill the prescription yourself. Pathetic. And then you cry and moan because you have withdrawls (again, because you started taking opiate medication in full knowledge of the side effects). Do you honestly expect doctors and nurses at a HOSPITAL to be more interested in you having mild withdrawls (and yes, you have mild withdrawls. I do .5g's of either quality tar or good powder dope to get high. And all I have is nausea and the craving and my ass gets sweaty and it's hard to get comfortable. I used to have much more severe withdrawls when I did less. Most of withdrawls are in your head.) than in patients who are having lifethreatining conditions? You are truly pathetic.

 

Where did you come from. Your posts are about as worthless as you.
Go climb back up your ass and get the fuck out of here .
Your a real piece of shit aren't you

LOOK EVERYONE WE HAVE A REAL PIECE OF SHIT HERE WITH ALL HIS KNOWLEDGE ^^^
HAHA I just looked at his profile, He has 1,000 posts and not a single friend..
Looking at the quality of his threads its no wonder why..

 

$500 for the first visit and then $150 for the visits after? Bloody hell that's some stupid fee's. Why not come over to the UK? NHS is bliss, I remember I used to get two weeks supply of subs for only £6 and paid nothing for my referal to the substance misuse team.
It's seems like you were on a very high dose of subs, the system there just seems wrong.

 

It's probably because I don't need internet friends -- it's a strange thing that happens when you have people to hang out with. and just because you fucking are a little girl who thinks he gets sick from a little bit of oxy every day isn't my fault. When I only did a little shit I thought I got realy sick too, but now I realize the stupidity of tricking yourself into thinking you're sick when you aren't, or tricking oneself into thinking you are far sicker than you are. So also I now have a hard time respecting people who have tricked themself into thinking they have a super serious habit and get so so sick when the reality is they are just lazy and thinks the world owes them something because they get a sniffle and think they are sick because they do a whole 20-100mg of oxy a day. Boo fucking hoo.

 

Oh wow. A 19 year old fucking Einstein is going to tell me all about myself. On the interwebs. Because he thinks he can.

Listen little guy - I realize that you're likely angry because your life is already in the toilet and not about to get any better, which sucks at your age, it really does. Not that I have to explain myself to you, but since you can't seem to comprehend simple Engrish, let me break it down for you: I was seeing the sub doctor for months. MONTHS. He had be on 24 mg. We started tapering. I was down to 16. I showed up for my appointment and was told with no warning that if I didn't pay $150 in cash I was not getting my suboxone. I said I didn't have $150. They told me to come back when I did. Also, he was okay to write the buspar, neurontin and trazadone that day, but not the suboxone. Now, little guy, you fucking genius, what does that sound like to you? Take some time, don't rush, just think about it (in between beating off to doggie porn on Red Tube). Because it sure as shit sounds to me like he's become a dealer rather than a doctor. I found out that the practice no longer takes ANY state-based insurance programs. Hmmm. Wonder why.

Not everybody's like you, little guy. Some of us work full time and have lives, and it's really kind of hard to do all the things I need to do with a full time job, a man and two kids when I can barely move because of my back. I started taking pain meds because of PAIN, asshole. I fully know the difference between mild wd's and full blown ones, I was up to 2 1/2 bundles a day when I stopped in 06, so go fuck directly off please kthx.

 

^^ i wouldn't bother with him Dilly.
its like he makes an effort to be a total dickhead when he posts on these forums...