Navy Seals kill pirates

aye, next time i'll be there swinging with my wooden sword and a paper pirate hat!

damn..pirates are cewl.

 

those of you with the pirate fetish, meet your inspiration: he basically wants to shoot you in the face

 

pirate support = not cool

 

They need to get this pirate shit under control before you ship out. PS-get the spiffy lap top before you deploy. You deserve it being in pirate danger. Can I have your old one though ?

 

pirates suck. why don't they just go fishing instead of being douches.

 

There is a reason babies become pirates.

Its called life.

Though we cannot change the past... we can promote a world in which babies have zero inclination to become pirates.

Murder will not promote such a world.

The people on the ship are worth infinitely more than the cargo on the ship... if the people who took over the ship understood that previous to doing so, perhaps they would have been boarding the ship to party instead of pillage

 

i do think that the way many people see pirates here, is as people who just kill everyone and take the loot..i think thats far from the truth. i don't support pirates, neither do i disrespect them, people arn't born evil, the system our world runs on is just unfair, just like the thieving homeless guy in the city who just wants nothing else but a normal life, don't you think its difficult too live in a third world country, and see on television/western magazines how we live, while your own people are dying..maybe you should go see one of those countries, i've been in nepal..and its easy to see why people resort to such things. this world is one big pile of trash, and just screw those who can't emphasize with those who just dream of something better, its sad and sick how pirates are branded as evil, and how their dead is cheered at, i don't understand you people. and sorry, kinda moody, just got back from a depressing trip to london (but i'll leave the sickness of that city out of topic)

ps: drop your proud and patriotism for just a second, and try to look from their point of view.

 

Why do you think these so-called pirates take ships with people on them?
Pirates do realise people are more valuable than cargo...hence massive demands for money, to release hostages.

 

I disrespect the pirates that kill others for no other reason than they can.
There is no defending that.
People in the third world, I imagine, have similar morals as us...sometimes flawed, and sometimes abused.
Lets, also, not beat ourselves up about it being how westerners live.
People want a better life, and some want riches...it isn't the western worlds fault...it is just human nature.

I can see why some of the pirates do what they do, I appreciate some do it for food and to help their families. Not all of them, though.
Some do it because they are ruthless people, out for themselves.

Treat them by their actions, I say.
If these guys turned out to be doing it for their families, and had no intention of killing anybody...I'd feel a tinge of sadness.
If they did it because they wanted to be rich and would kill anybody on board, to have that.
They deserved to die and may they burn in hell.

 

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You missed my point entirely and seem to not understand what "value" really means

The people are worth more than the cargo - and debt notes.

If the pirates understood that, they would have no desire to trade a life (be it their own or someone else's) for paper.

Value is not a measure of the paper you have in your pocket. Nor is it a measure of anything you possess. Value is a measure of life itself.

 

To me.

He looks absolutely miserable, ready to die.

 

AKA, take the green paper bag Uncle Sam put on your head...

off

 

Oh, very deep.

I am trying to say, yes, life is more valuable than cargo.
That is why the pirates take people hostage, as they gain more ransom in doing so. I doubt the pirates are that interested in metaphysical thought. They want money. people are of value, as you say (in a round about way.)

 

Perhaps one day the world as a whole can understand such a simple concept... the great GREAT majority certainly understand internally... but still direct themselves in such a way that does not indicate their love for their brothers and sisters.

the media really has a grasp on society...

Turning off the TV makes this so obvious... but it goes so much deeper... into movies, books, magazines, newspaper... most of what is promoted as mainstream only gains that title and funding because it promotes a limiting set of ideals.

I am an anarchist, 100%...

In saying that, most seem to lap me together with those pirates - because that is the image they have been presented in regard to anarchy. Its said to be synonymous with war, destruction, etc etc.

BUT, I am absolutely peaceful... I wish for anarchy because it is THE realization of freedom!!!!! Freedom cannot include laws and signs... both are restrictions and obviously freedom cannot be restricted and still be called freedom!

We are not truly free if we are only free to be "good"....

Attack the source of our problems and you will find laws, restrictions, money, and greed. One very obvious one is the war on drugs... its intention is not to stop drug traffic, but to create a criminal element where there would otherwise not be one. Just as offering jailtime for murder inclines someone to kill someone solely because they know they can do it free of law-given consequence. Without jail, someone must consider the purpose of his actions on a personal and collective level... in which case logic has so much more of an opportunity to prevail...

 

Good grief, man. Way too much information.
Thanks for the insight, but I didn't need to know all of that.

Simply, people are valuable and pirates know they can exploit that for money.
They probably know the value of life, but simply choose to pick which individuals thay see as personally valuable, to those that they can make money off, because others see them as value.

It has never been the case all people have : "love for their brothers and sisters."
I'd seriously get over that fact, and move on.

The pirates are not anarchists, neither would many see them as: "synonymous with war, destruction, etc etc."
You seem to have over analysed all of this, for some bizarre reason.

Sorry, but that is bollocks, imo. I'd say: "prove that is the case".

 

dealing with pirates with navy seals is actually a sign of failure , if you armed these merchant ships in the first place they wouldnt get taken in the first place .
how much money did this cost the tax payer ? how much are all the naval vessels going cost to police the seas .

a few deck guns or even small arms on merchant ships would stop people on rubber boats taking supertankers , even the prevented loss of one vessel would pay to arm all the merchant ships sailing through pirate waters .

but governments don't like the idea of people defending themselves , they like people to depend on police or navy's that generally aren't on scene to stop pirates .

 

There is no such thing as too much information.

I have not over analyzed, I have analyzed. I tie things together, I think for myself... I answer the question of what makes someone who is absolutely similar to me (you, everyone) believe something other than what is truth.

Love is easy... real easy. To exist is to be in a state of love.

War, now that takes effort... that takes action, clear and calculated - HATEFUL action that is most regrettable... war is extremely difficult and clearly nonsensical.

www.zeitgeistmovie.com

Take the time to watch both movies... it puts alot into perspective.

You are your brothers keeper - your responsibility goes well beyond yourself and your immediate encounters... life itself is to grasp the concept of WHY each action is performed... WHY do I walk this way, WHY do I use words to communicate, WHY do I do things that I do not wish to do - WHY do I wish to do what I wish to do.

 

Maybe not for you, but there certainly is for me.

Sometimes when you tie things together it ends up in a knot. These guys are not really like you or I. They - I imagine - see the world in a very insular way. If they didn't they would not be doing what they are doing. The thrust of the issue here is: Why are they doing what they are doing.
I hope I have explained why I think they do what they do. Also why they choose people over cargo. To bring in anarchy, love and god only knows what else...is, imo, over analysing.

Oh, for fucks sake. :leaving:

Some war is fuelled by hate, I agree. Most wars are is fuelled by humanitarianism, a search for peace, land, resources and countless other things - including hate.

Mmm, a lot people say that film is a lot of hogwash. but, if it better illuminates how you feel and your perspective, i'll take a little look.

 

They didn't do it five days earlier because the Navy SEAL team wasn't on the Bainbridge until that day.