Long term Withdrawals

Discussion in 'MDMA - X' started by physicalxgraffiti, Apr 14, 2009.

  1. physicalxgraffiti

    physicalxgraffiti Member

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    I'm a junior in college. Freshman and Sophomore year, I rolled a lot. I was doing e at least one time a week, if not 2-4 times a week. I was also experimenting with other drugs, mostly coke and pcp. I did this for about a year solid, took months off then did ecstasy every once in a while until I quit completely. I've been clean, (i only smoke pot about once a week) for a little over a year now but ever since then I haven't felt the same. I get depressed really easily, my self image is different and I feel lost, all kinds of phycological issues that were never there before the ecstasy. I'm not sure if anyone has exerienced this, and had to get help or finds that it fades away. I'd love some feedback :)
     
  2. OneExodus

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    i just think you need a hug
     
  3. physicalxgraffiti

    physicalxgraffiti Member

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    I wish i was that simple...I've had plenty of hugs since and still, nothing hahaha.
     
  4. Euphorial

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    As much as I feel sorry for you, It's at least nice to see you post this to let others know the potential danger of hardcore drug use.

    This may just be a large bump in the road, so I'd suggest trying to fight any moments of "down-ness" the best that you can. If it gets out of hand, there are plenty of professionals out there who are willing to help out.

    Good luck to you, Graffitti. Here's an online hug for you! :hug: :)
     
  5. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    It's not withdrawl, it's called 'neurological adaptation'. you flooded your brain with too many 'happy' chemicals, and now your brain got used to it and doesnt make as much as it used to. It will get better over time however :)

    stay clean though!
     
  6. codemeister3

    codemeister3 Banned

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    Above post is true. I remember reading a study with neurotoxic doses of MDMA in monkeys. The experimental group had significantly less serotonin receptors than the control group after being given a neurotoxic dose (repeated doses do almost the same thing). However, more than 12 months afterwords, the experimental group had experienced neurogenesis. The serotonin receptors came back completely (sometimes more than!) the control group. The majority of serotonin recptors was now more heavily located in their perspective areas instead of being spread out in the cerebral cortex.

    What that means is, they will grow back over a long period of time. Just not in the same area, cause more of a "change" in the brain opposed to damage. I found it particularly interesting how the experimental group had more receptors! I wish I could find that article again.
     
  7. -beatnick

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    mr. writer usually gives fantastic advice, listen to him. my answer was going to be kinda similar.
     
  8. Feelings 0f U4ia is Back!

    Feelings 0f U4ia is Back! Banned

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    I agree with Mr. Writer. It's not "withdrawals." It's just the downside of using MDMA too much.

    What is weird is that MDMA actually made me feel the opposite of how you do. My outlook on life improved immensely, I felt better about myself, and it just opened up my mind. I do understand it though, because abusing MDMA can be really detrimental to your physical and mental well-being.

    If it has been a year, and if you are STILL feeling negative psychological effects and depression, you need to see someone about it. At this point, you can no longer blame the chemical, IMO. Might be the stress of growing up, college, relationships, etc. Sounds to me like you just need to talk to someone, and maybe get some help to deal with things...because I honestly don't think the MDMA is to blame if it has been ongoing for this long.

    There still hasn't been solid proof on what kind of damage, if any, MDMA does...either short-term, or long-term. Most negative effects people get from abusing MDMA (i.e. depression, mood swings, etc) usually start to fade away as you get off the drug.

    Also, 2 years of use, at only 4 times a month, is NOT as much as quite a few people I know. I rolled 2 times a week for roughly 5-6 years. I have no negative effects from it...but I did have some depression and such...for a couple months after I slowed down.

    It's been around a year since I've rolled.
     
  9. Mr.Writer

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    u4ia, the range for personal interactions with mdma is quite large, as large as say LSD.

    There are people who can roll every weekend their entire life and be more or less ok.

    there are other people who roll twice and never quite rebound from that second crash. it sucks but its all personal neurochemistry.

    i rolled 6 times in 2 months and my crashes were starting to become longer than my 'sober' periods between rolls, like my crashes overlapped into my rolling . . . so its also behavioural. Just because your BFF rolls every week and has a ball, doesn't mean you can! Read your OWN moods and thoughts. if you feel down, sullen, more vulnerable emotionally, its time to take a long break from molly.

    you can always come back! just give it a long break, its worth it, rolling is only fantastic when it DOESNT ruin your mental world :)
     
  10. physicalxgraffiti

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    Whoever said using mdma improved your outlook on life, there are definetly aspects of my mentality that have improved, and for those positive things I'm happy for. I am much more open minded but there has really been a change in my emotions. I'm hoping in time it will get better. I'm not looking for any certain answers, but I do think it's important for people that do E on a regular basis to know that it really does effect everyone differently. I was fine about 6 months or so after I quit, but slowly I started to feel a change. Everyone is different and is going to be effected differently My experience has always been pleasant, and I don't regret it, but there is a risk.
    codemeister3, that research is very reassuring :)
    thanks for the tips !
     
  11. Rollin24/7

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    Some further studies have also shown that this damage causes increased rates of depression and anxiety, even after quitting the drug. In addition to this, some studies have indicated that MDMA may cause long-term memory and cognition impairment.Many factors, including total lifetime MDMA consumption, the duration of abstinence between uses, the environment of use, poly-drug use/abuse, quality of mental health, various lifestyle choices, and predispositions to develop clinical depression and other disorders may contribute to various possible health consequences. MDMA use has been occasionally associated with liver damage, excessive wear of teeth, and (very rarely) Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
    i kinda over did it myself and well 2 make a long story short i sometimes c things, u made a good choice 2 quit
     
  12. codemeister3

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    Why did you post a link to wiki?^^^

    I DO KNOW, however, that you can help minimize the damage by using antioxidants while under the influence (and after) of MDMA. 2g of vit. C, tea, blueberries are all good. You can check this article under the MDMA half-life section:
    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_article2.shtml

    Also I heard that magnesium helps with the jaw clenching. 5-htp and B6 helps with the crash and day after. It just makes sense to be healthy when you do drugs (eat right, exercise, sleep, etc.). It is to easy. You don't care now, but you will later in your life.
     
  13. Prea

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    Well when you're using a substance in such excess, what do you honestly expect?

    Exercising and eating right can go a long way for feeling better.
     

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