Pres Obama and his AG are letting CIA officials walk. Hands clean.

i just read an article regarding the release of 4 Bush-era legal documents (regarding 'enhanced interrogation techniques' against detainees)... And how the President as well as his AG Holder are pretty much letting go of the idea of prosecution these officials... I can't say a lot about President Ford because I wasn't even born yet, but the whole 'look to the future, it is now time to heal to nation' notion, it didn't exactly make citizens happy, did it?

is my only solace in this horrid affair to ponder how much worse things might be, had we elected John McCain instead of Barack?

I guess so. so much for small favors.

 

Was just reading about that myself.
Weird that some people have Bush and his cronies doing things un-checked...but, they have legal counsel about these kinds of things. Bureaucratic torture.

 

Surprised?

 

not really.

 

What could they be charged with?

 

the CIA officials that interrogated detainees harshly (using sleep deprivation, trauma, stress positions, etc): charged with committing torture

 

How can they if it isn't deemed illegal? Is this your wish rather than a reality?

 

its not just my wish, many feel that way...

people can try to splice it anyway they choose but torture was already illegal prior to Bush.

according to Susan Lee, Director of Americas Programme of Amnesty International “No-one, not even a President, can authorize torture. Anyone who orders, condones or carries out torture exposes themselves to criminal liability under international law.”

KEYWORD: international not US law, international law, that means that every country even the great and powerful US has to follow it... that breach of law is why you have other countries such as Spain talking about prosecuting if the US does not.

 

I appreciate that.
I'd like to see it go further, too.
As long as it is fair...

It's certainly one to watch.

 

Torture for interrogating CERTAIN PEOPLE, is alright, really just depends on the situation IMO.

 

In this case, it aint your opinion that matters

 

The USA has a terrible foreign policy thing going on. They can't prosecute war criminals so they let other countries do it for them.

This is what's happening with Spain at the moment with the terrorists being released from Guantanamo.

 

right on, i'm not a party loyalist by any means. If a Democrat allowed this, its the same as a Republican: illegal.

i'm more of a very very left of center independent.

 

It was a while back during a interview how .. DICK.. Cheney was saying how they got vital information from the tortures...which was probably like everything else he said ..a lie

 

mscatamaran,

I'm all over the shop most of the time.
On this, it just isn't right.
I don't want it being made into something it is not, but lines have been blurred far too much.

 

you're correct. it isn't right at all.

 

Americans know what's important and what is not

 

It's not clear who at this moment is going to be given a pass by the Attorney General. I think we have to wait and see.

I would like the non-com officers convicted for Abu Gahrib to be granted some form of reprieve...afterall they were only following orders and I feel used as scapegoats.

 

Of course, if you don't agree, then it doesn't matter. Ya fuckin dirtbag.

 

Sorry. It came across fairly rude. What I meant was, this wasn't about the how we felt about torture. Personally, waterboarding is wrong.
Other things...mmmm open to debate.