I will start this by saying I love you guys, well most of you, its painfully clear to me that most of you are responsible intelligent opiate users. I am one as well. Theres just a percentage of us, not on hipforums, that fuck our rep up for everybody. Its like, I see nothing wrong with the occasional night of opiate bliss, but since some mothafuckin junkies ruin it for me, Im looked down and frowned upon as if I were a junkie myself. I have never stolen, committed crimes, or any desperate junkie activity just to get high. But the common misconception is that all of us opiate users are like that. But we're not. One example is us, the hipforums users. Look at U4ia, he uses opiates like a motherfucker, probably rails more oxycontin than REAL junkies, yet he has a job, a daughter, genuinely pays for his supply, and so forth; and he's a PM patient so of course he has a legitimate reason but even if he wasnt on PM, he'd still be doing okay. He's just like any regular person who lives a normal life all week and gets trashed drinking alcohol on saturdays. The only difference is his drug of choice isnt alcohol but oxy. This reputation that opiate users have acquired sucks ass especially for us responsible users, because the junkies could care less. What Im trying to say is, Im fuckin ashamed to ask my friends for hook-ups when it comes to opiates. I can ask them to get me acid, coke, ecstasy, and all that is perfectly fine. But the second I mention oxy, all hell breaks loose and Im looked at as the scum of the earth. God forbid I say that diabolic H-word. LMAO. Does anyone else have anything to say? I guess I'm just posted this because I want some oxy, but have no way of getting any and am too discouraged to go looking for some for the reasons stated above. Anyways, Im about to go take a physics w/ calculus II exam, Im ready for it and should do good now that I started smoking weed again, I've been doing better in school. I got a 100% and a 110% on my last two multivariable calculus tests, which is sweet cuz I get to exempt from taking the final exam. well, deuces peeps.
i hear ya man. like U4ia, i am also prescribed my meds for CP. but even so, some of my friends,even family, think theres something wrong with me taking these pills even though i absolutly need em to function. but regardless of whether people are prescribed or not,i still think that it is possible to use responsibly, as many people on this forum do. so yeah kilo, i totally agree with your statement.
I agree totally but am happy to say that all my friends know I can use opiates responsibly and the people around me are starting to see its possible and think different if only we could show that to everyone. I think this forum would be the perfect image for us
yeah china, thats what I said. I know for a fact that all opiate users arent junkie losers. For proof, just come to hipforums.
Then you get someone like SoThisIsLife posting about snorting tylenol and all our hard work goes out the window.
I totally agree with Kilo, people like me ruin it for you guys. I stole, lied, cheated, and manipulated everyday for almost three years to get high. Most of the people I hung out with were like that so I thought all opiate users were like that but after seeing this forum I have come to see that SOME people can use recreationally. I hated what I had become but it was, in my mind, survival of the fittest. And now I am on Methadone and society views me as a junkie getting high off the government...I started on the clinic because at the time it was the most reasonable thing to do and I did not plan on staying on it this long. I am planning on stopping in June and switching to Suboxone so I can get away from the label that has been stamped on me. Good post, though, man. -NICU
Opiates are just like any other drug in that they can either be used responsibly or be abused. I classify drug use into 3 categories: drug use, drug abuse, and drug addiction. Drug users are responsible people who use drugs to enhance their lives, not escape them. They love drugs, but can take them or leave them. They generally don't do shady things to get high and carry on normal, productive lives outside of their use. Drug abusers are somewhere between users and addicts, often using drugs to numb out their feelings or escape reality. They take irresponsible doses and do stupid things while high, like fighting or driving, but aren't addicted. Drug addicts have a physiological disorder in the brain and will choose drugs over food if given the choice. Their lives revolve around drugs, and they're both physically and mentally dependent on drugs to avoid withdrawal and depression. They're far more likely to rob and do other shady things to get drugs despite knowing it's wrong. Of course that's just my opinion, but what do you guys think? I think I fall under the first heading, as I use opiates (poppy tea) daily in small doses but still have a job, relationship, friends, and a life. If I had access to Vicodin (my opiate of choice), things might be different, but even then I'd never give up the other things in life that matter to me in order to support my habit. People prone to addiction don't have this choice. I agree that opiates have a bad rap, especially right now with all the media hype about the "prescription pill epidemic". Before that it was the "meth epidemic", before that it was ecstasy, and crack, and quaaludes, and...It's always something. My weed-only friends are cool with pills for the most part, but my gf doesn't really like me using them that much and I really can't argue. Besides promising I won't get addicted and reminding her that opiates aren't chronically damaging to the body, I have no defense because opiates ARE highly addictive in nature. They do ruin lives. But the issue is definitely overhyped thanks to shows like Dr. Drew's Celeb Rehab, Intervention, etc. Hopefully the obsession will pass.
man, that was one of the best post that i have read on this forum to date. your definition of drug user, drug abuser, and drug addict were perfect. i think so anyway. great post man, i totally agree with everything you just said.
i think escapism is part of human nature and very common in todays society, i don't believe in recreational drug use, i just think most people are to proud to admit they are escaping, and call it recreational use. people spent most of their time escaping from reality, even while doing common things as watching television. And whats wrong with junkies? i hate it how people always refer to junkies as some piece of 'junk', often junkies are over-emotional people taking their escapistic feelings further then most common people. Not everyone is happy with the world they are born in.
Well I think everyone here has there shit together in some shape or form cause we all have computers, internet and are mentally capable to converse in a forum. There are stone cold sober people that will hurt, harm and cheat you way worse then a junkie could. Bad people are just bad people, its just alot easier for people to point there finger at a junkie and say "that's what wrong with society.... It's those dam junkies" I personally think opiates are great and make me feel great. One of the best quotes I herd to describe it was "the bliss off an opiate high makes you want to call up the phone company and tell them what a great job they are doing" I totally agree that it should be more socially acceptable. People are so ignorant... Alcohol should be banned and there should be oxy bars......
As a non-opiate user, I have a totally different take on this issue, and many other issues regarding opiates. Unfortunately, being probably one of the only ones in this forum that does not use opiates at all, I am outspoken and don't want to get flamed the crap out of.
Everything should be legal. I dont believe one should be punished for what you do to yourself. If someone wants to throw their life away due to drugs, let them. Its their life. However, when your drug use starts affecting others lives, whether it be robbing, killing, mugging, thats when you need to have the law enforced. Drugs should be legal, crime should not. That applies to more than drugs. You should not be punished for things self-inflicted, PERIOD. Attempted suicide? Get them help. Drug overdose? Treat them and move on. Robbery FOR drugs? Throw the fucking book at them. Just my 2 cents.
