Peer-reviewed study proves twin towers demolished

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  1. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    The facade was aluminum and attached to the steel superstructure. There were 236 steel perimeter columns all cladded with aluminum a quarter-mile high. It's plausible that the two metals scraped each other during the collapse and created small chips of metal that contained aluminum and iron.

    There are other explanations for iron-rich particles related to the incinerator-like conditions in the fires before and after the collapse. Iron-rich particles are common in incinerators. Some incinerators use a magnetic drum that attracts the iron-rich particles so that they can be collected and sold.

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  2. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    The Danish chemical researcher, Harrit, appears to be a more recent addition to the 9/11 truther groups or someone who has gone public with his truth views more recently than the rest. He has good academic and work credentials. However, in terms of structural engineering and building collapse, he lacks experience and has very poor judgment (listen to his remarks about the collapse in his videos). The other associates of the Harrit paper are the regulars from BYU and the 9/11 truth groups.

    Bloggers are trying to bolster their image by portraying this group as some sort of new diverse, pervasive, objective, international science group when it isn't.


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  3. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    The scale of the metallic particles analyzed in the samples are understood to be a] about 1000 times smaller than flour, b] uniformly sized], c] in a ratio like super thermite, and d] uniform spheroids of molten metal were micrographed.....all indicating nanotechnology manufactured super thermite. After ignition of the samples at low 400C* (indicative of super thermite) the extreme exothermic energetic reactions produced the observed metalic spheroids, and these spheroids matched the spheroids found throughout the WTC site..
    This wasn't just fine material from the explosion or buildings grinding together... This is Super Thermitic material.
    Nanostructured Themitic material. This shit can only be produced by high tech labs.



    From the navy..

    Low-Cost Production of Nanostructured Super-Thermites
    Navy SBIR 2008.1 - Topic N08-020
    NAVAIR - Mrs. Janet McGovern - navair.sbir@navy.mil
    Opens: December 10, 2007 - Closes: January 9, 2008
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    N08-020 TITLE: Low-Cost Production of Nanostructured Super-Thermites

    TECHNOLOGY AREAS: Chemical/Bio Defense, Materials/Processes, Weapons

    ACQUISITION PROGRAM: PEO(W)-ACAT 1C

    The technology within this topic is restricted under the International Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR), which controls the export and import of defense-related material and services. Offerors must disclose any proposed use of foreign nationals, their country of origin, and what tasks each would accomplish in the statement of work in accordance with section 3.5.b.(7) of the solicitation.

    OBJECTIVE: Develop a safe, low-cost, high performance, high production rate method of preparing nanostructured super-thermite materials.

    DESCRIPTION: "Super-thermite" is a metal fuel/metal oxide energetic mixture where at least one of the materials has a sub 100 nanometer dimension. Super-thermites with high energy content greater than TNT (4.5 kJ/g) are of interest. Thermite type compositions can have higher densities and energy content by volume than conventional organic explosives. This affords smaller weapon systems or enables the use of higher lethality weapons. A substantial increase in weapons performance is expected. The cost and production rate of super-thermite composites has limited the use of these materials in DoD applications. Currently, the most common approach for the preparation of super-thermites is by ultra sonication of nano metal and nano metal oxide powder. Eliminating the need for nano sized starting materials is preferable for cost minimization.

    PHASE I: Determine the technical feasibility of preparing a high performance super-thermite.
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    So,,,we will have to see if other physical evidence, or extensions of this evidence forensically add up. Right now for those having a dissonance considering all manner of physical evidence in the crime of the century to be 'crazy talk', time will tell.



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  4. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    The problem is that thermite isnt used for demolitions, it doesn't burn sideways, it creates huge clouds of smoke and burns very brightly. It is also slow acting and difficult to time precisely. In doesn't even begin to make sense as a material to cause the collapse of the WTC.
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    But if you actually read the report instead of just spouting off your canned bullshit, you would see this was not ordinary thermite, but rather nano-thermite, which has been said to be highly explosive.

    Besides, nobody has said that this thermite wasn't used with high explosives.

    Personally, I do not believe this thermite alone brought down the towers, but the fact that it was detected in the dust is enough to further confirm with me that the destruction of the two towers was not the work of 19 hijackers.
     
  6. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Please keep this topic civil, Pressed_Rat.
     
  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    What is uncivil about it?

    If I was attacking his character (I'm not), then there might be reason to say I am not being civil. Usually Hiptastic is the one who is uncivil, yet is continually allowed to get away with it. But whatever.

    And once again I have to ask you, what forums exactly do you moderate? Because last I was aware, you were the moderator of the Politics forum and not the entire website.
     
  8. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    I've always been a Super Mod and I moderate the entire website. I told the members that I would mostly moderate the Politics and RT, but I moderate the entire site.

    Is that okay with you?
     
  9. Hiptastic

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    Seeing as you recently accused me of being a pedophile and have threatened to have me banned, who is "getting away with it" and trying to shut down free speech? Why do you insist on playing the victim?
     
  10. Hiptastic

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    Do you honestly think there is a single person here who would be gullible enough to believe you have actually read the report? Seriously, do you?
    I'm not going to get into the science here. Neither of us are scientists. I can say this - what happened was that a professor who got fired from his university for being a crackpot published an inconclusive study in a pay-to-publish journal (one which you called 'respected' but decided not to provide any evidence of this). The study was based on materials handed in by the general public from various locations in lower Manhattan, and tested several years after the fact. In othe words a chain of evidence which is extremely dubious. Based on this, Jones concluded that there were similarities to "super thermite", a material he has never seen or tested and which has never been used in demolitions of any kind. He claims his spectrographs show similarities to super nano thermite, yet he provides no specrograph results for said substance.
    Well many people don't want to say what they think happened, because it is fairly difficult to do come up witha theory that doesn't sound like the worst B movie plot in history.
    I know, you think there was a nuclear bomb in the basement but this is so completely crazy that you try to avoid bringing it up.
     
  11. Elijah

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    don't completely count israel out, hwere's a news story fox news did about israeli spy rings around the time of 9/11. also mention of the five dancing israelis in new jersey filming the planes wrecking into the twin towers while videotaping it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-mkUNcDlgY&feature=PlayList&p=193B1620C9785F4B&index=0&playnext=1

    seeing as they attacked the uss liberty and how mossad was suspected of having involvement in the uss cole. the lead investigator of the uss cole incident was quietly made to step down when he suspected israel had a role. highjacking and blowing up planes is a big part of mossad's arsenal afterall.


     
  12. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    Are you the new Xexon?
     
  13. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    I am the destroyer of noobs!
     
  14. Elijah

    Elijah Member

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    i was here way before xexon was. you'd be a fool to think our ally Israel never commits terrorism and false flags. this includes against our country or it's citizens. let me guess, you think the attack on the USS Liberty was an accident or an antisemitic hoax? you also probably think John Pollard was framed too :) Mossad's motto just so happens to be victory through deciet

    i have some news for you, unlike Xexon. a few accusations of racism or antisemitism against me isn't going to chase me away from these forums. the bottom line is they can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt it was 19 arabs or that bin laden had anything to do with it. even the FBI has said there's no proof Bin laden was behind it.

    ps-one last thing, Mossad's motto just so happens to be "victory through deceit"

    quote=Hiptastic;5479795]Are you the new Xexon?[/quote]
     
  15. dubtrice

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    The official 9/11 Commission Report says we spent $600,000 investigating 9/11..

    We spent $50,000,000 on the Clinton-Lewinsky sex scandal..

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    strange "explosions" can been seen from any recording of the 9/11 tragedy, these clouds coming out the side of the buildings look exactly like those you would see on a publicly rigged explosion. I noticed these clouds when I saw the the towers crash on TV. It still sends shivers down my spine.

    Floors 92 and above were re-fireproofed between 1995-2000 within WTC 1. WTC 1 was struck at floor 94 by AA 11. Floors 77 and above were re-fireproofed between 1995-2000 within WTC 2. WTC 2 was struck at floor 78 by UA 175.

    Because the Flight Data Recorders (FDRs) for American Airlines flight 11 and United Airlines flight 175 were not recovered, details regarding the operation of each aircraft are not known. The FDRs for American Airlines flight 77 and United Airlines flight 93 were recovered and indicate pilot control of each aircraft. However, the FDR readout file for American Airlines flight 77 was completed four hours and fifteen minutes before the said FDR was recovered, suggesting false or altered FDR information.

    The FDRs for American Airlines flight 77 and United Airlines flight 93 are virtually the only ones during the previous 20 years of major National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) U.S. aviation mishap investigations, for which unique inventory control serial numbers were not published. Such serial numbers are required to facilitate FDR data readouts. In fact the NTSB possesses no records pertaining to the positive identification of the FDRs for American Airlines flight 77 and United Airlines flight 93.

    Apparently suspect information obtained from the afore mentioned FDRs for American Airlines flight 77 and United Airlines flight 93 indicates the performance of numerous and complex auto-pilot mode changes by the accused hijack pilots of each attack aircraft. However, unclassified records used by the “9/11 Commission” contain interviews of United Airlines and American Airlines personnel who describe the inability of the said hijackers to perform the flight operations alleged.

    NORAD jets were scrambled from Langley AFB in Virginia roughly 40 minutes after the first plane struck the WTC. The pilots were then given incorrect directions and due to “sound restrictions” they could not travel at high speed over land, making an interception impossible.

    It was assumed that Bin Laden was responsible after a video tape appeared in a house in Jalalabad, its been criticized from the get go, the man in the video, looks, acts and talks nothing like Bin Laden. During his ‘confession speech’ he says the wrong names of the people who allegedly highjacked the planes and the FBI refuses it as reliable evidence.

    So.. what do WE do?

    We declare "War on Terrorism" then Invade Iraq

    So all of a sudden we start to give a shit about Saddam?
     
  16. Elijah

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    i'd like to know where norad was that day. were they asleep or what? because those planes were alowed to fly over nuclear reactors.
     
  17. dubtrice

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    NORAD could not intercept the second jet, because they were given false information, which led them the wrong way over the Atlantic Ocean and because of "SOUND RESTRICITONS" that would not allow them to fly over land using the afterburners.. :eek:
     
  18. jamesrock

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    Ya know what else those strange explosions look like?

    The results of a pancake collapse which is exactly what happened.

    Im sure it was very scary on TV. Thank God YOU will never experience fear like that in person.
     
  19. dubtrice

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    Are you mad because im analyzing a tragedy?

    The most respectful thing you could do for those that died and those that lost is to expose what really happened; to find out if we've all been lied to for 8 years. Its definitely worth an investigation bigger than the Clinton scandal
     
  20. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    My pancakes have never collapsed, and I put them in stacks of 30.
     

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