Obama, America's first Hip President!

Young for the head of state!

Yeah he is pretty hip compared to the competition, but I would have to say Andrew Jackson or Ronald Reagon were the "hip" presidents of their time.

 

Idk about Reagan being hip, but he did give off that jovial old grandfather feeling that people loved.

 

And that's about it.

 

Lulz, Obama iz hip cos every1 sayz he iz!

 

Don't forget calling ketchup a fucking vegetable in regards to school children getting their daily nutrition at lunch in school. Damn fool.

 

settle down now skippy.... The old man has been gone quite a while now. He cant "hurt" you anymore.

 

Yo fuck Reagan.
Worst president ever.

 

Ron Paul!!!... Oh well at least Number 2, thinks.. you know coherent and cognizant

 

It's not every day a world power elects a president suffering from alzheimers. We thought Cheney pulled Bush's strings I wonder who made Reagan's policies for him?

 

The only thing that I would add to your list is that Reagan took the first significant step towards establishing hard-right ultraconservative christianity as the defacto official religion of the United States. He attempted to merge it with hazy, melodramatic, sentimental love for the concept of democracy; a slick package that was to be exported at gunpoint to all the world. To hell with the consequences. Bush played this game out to its logical conclusion.

It was surely enough to make Thomas Jefferson turn over in his grave.

Today's Republicans remind me of elderly Southern white men in a barber shop, working themselves up as they agree with each other as to how and why the South should have won the Civil War. (There is a lot of overlap between those two groups.) You can't reason with people who have been so thoroughly indoctrinated and brainwashed. Total and utter defeat on all levels only makes them more stubborn.

Fundamentalism is essentially the same, anywhere you find it. It is intellectual poison.

 

You are correct sir. Reagan was a dolt, W was a double dolt. They might play well in the same sandbox together though in Alzheimer's heaven.

 

How coincidental they were from the same party. The party of the deceived and the deceivers.

 

The American people seem to be falling for the "good cop - bad cop" trick when it comes to the presidencies of George Bush and Barack Obama.

Can someone remind me how the two are different on foreign policy again?

The way public opinion can be manipulated by superficial bullshit like "Obama listens to Bob Dylan" is embarrassing.

 

The difference is one invades countries and one talks to them.

 

Barack Obama gave the go-ahead for his first military action yesterday, missile strikes against suspected militants in Pakistan which killed at least 18 people.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/24/pakistan-barack-obama-air-strike

Oh really?

Don't believe the hype.

 

Obama stated during his campaign that he would venture into Pakistan if necessary. Not something that he hasn't been up front about.

And not something Bush didn't also do during his term.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/11/terror/main4438932.shtml

Pakistan has been a problem for quite a while during which time it received a lot US aid. I am not for military expansion, but when we outlay aid to a country that country should be playing on our side not an ally to the opposition. I would much rather we withhold all foreign aid to Pakistan and others including Israel.

http://www.nsnetwork.org/node/868

Had Bush actually smoked him out we wouldn't be having this discussion. But he didn't did he?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4138791.ece

 

I don't think you can compare joint or co-operative military action to invading a whole country. Obama is willing to talk to Iran, I don't think Bush was so keen. That's the talking to other countries part. That's a difference.

Imo, Admins' foreign policy is too complicated to say: They are both the same.

I do think Obama does things Bush was or planned on doing and tries to say it was all his idea, and it is a break from Bush's policys.
Closing Guantanamo
Stopping Torture
Moving troops out of Iraq.
The list goes on.