So China is the worlds new super power

What's everyone think about this? Personally, no offense to china or chinese people, but I was more comfortable with America on top, since I can relate to them, but no one stays on top forever. Our Prime Minister can speak chinese, that has to count for something.

 

I hear there is currently a very high demand in the U.S. for Mandarin/English speaking nanny's...:toetap05:
Lots of people apparently want to get their kids up to speed and fluent in Mandarin ASAP.

ZW

 

not yet, though the trend is moving that way. things could change. only time well who is top dog.

 

I think the time already has changed, America is in debt and borrowing money from China, I read a report that says every American man woman and child ownes the Chinese government $6000. The US still has the most military power, but they would never dare go up against China.

 

I'm equally comfortable with china as the new super power. I only hope they don't screw the planet up.

 

The Chinese own our debt, and therefore they own our asses. The concern is when they lose confidence in our economy (as they already have) and want their money back, what then?

 

To error is human.

Do we not all learn by our mistakes?

It doesn't matter who runs the world they will eventually fail you.

This is human nature.

 

I don't get why you think China is the new world super power, because it isn't(If we are involving facts, of course), but China does not own us. The debt situation is widely misunderstood and I can see why most people with no knowledge of these things assume that because we owe a couple trill to China, that somehow means they own us. They invest in us, which involves risk. They lend money to us, which also involves risk. It's not like "Yo, America, pay us our money or you're goin down". Our military is far superior to what China has. Look up how much we invest in Military compared to every other country in the world. We also control the dollar, which has more power then every military combined. China knows that if we fall, they fall. All economies depend on our survival.

Just thought I'd kick some facts

 

He is very right. America in an important importer from many countries. No one would fuck with us military wise, trust me. They would have to make us pay it back but how? Yeah. Kinda of like putting stock into a company and it crashing. Its your loss, you don't get the money back.

I had a post about the US's debt and just got flamed because I actually was taking macroeconomics and everyone was mad that I didn't think like them. I just state facts. If I don't know about something I wont act like I do. I would like for america to fall out of its chair though. Just for a little while at least.

 

Perhaps we're wrestling with semantics here, but as far as I'm concerned, investment implies ownership. Shareholders may not have much of a say as individuals over the company (or country) they own, but collectively they have a lot of influence.

I took macroeconomics some twenty years ago, and I get your point, but when a company's stock goes down, so does their credibility, and as a result investors stop investing in them.

Furthermore, who knows what our politicians are giving them in return for their investments. Military favors? We are the thugs of the world after all, which isn't necessarily the best foreign policy.

It behooves us not to be arrogant because of our military strength, that's how empires crumble.

 

to sum up, and make it easy to understand:

19th Century: Britain on top
20th Century: USA on top, Britain sulking/in denial
21st Century: China on top, USA sulking/in denial, Britain transformed

 

One word for you, brother: LAND.

As in China owns more real estate here in the States that you are apparently aware of. They've even bought up a significant portion of the new 'Freedom Tower' (you know the one that's all about Amurrkkka n' freedom 'n stuff?) and I heard a story last week on NPR where there are 'real estate vacations' being taken by wealthy Chinese investors for the purpose of buying up billions of dollars in distressed properties here as well.

You are busy talking about the unlikely event of a military conflict changing the power structure while the real take over plan is simply to buy the damned country right out from under us. At least the parts that we haven't given over to the UN already.

It's all a moot point anyways, because China won't be the new super power, they're just currently at the head of the economic uprising of the Asian Union. The West's response will be to form the North American Union to counter the Eastern influence and thus we move closer to a global government where borders and flags will mean nothing. Never lose sight of the big picture here, people.

 

Good point, thank you, who do you think owns all those abandoned properties no one can afford? Furthermore, land ownership implies political influence, so we may be licking their boots sooner than you think if we can't get this credit card mentality in check.

Last year's federal budget set aside 300 billion for the interest alone on our national debt, that's damn near as much as we spent on welfare and unemployment benefits nationwide.

We already have a global economy, in which the big players own the politicians, so it's not too hard to imagine a global government, it's already happening, whether or not we choose to recognize it as such. The government of money.

 

Too late. They already are.

 

we didn't have ANY part in that... nope.

 

Uhm, of course we have a part in that as well.
But that doesn't mean China is a huge country which is still growing in economy and industry and just doesn't take it too narrow on their pollution.

 

What does that mean?

 

I don't think it would make much of a difference if China did become the next 'superpower' or whatever. It's not like the USA is going to abandon its military-- and having the world's biggest and best military is what is keeping the USA on top. The US is definitely not going to go down without a fight.

Also, Britain lost its superpower status because of the devastation it suffered during WWII... it's hard to imagine the US suffering a similar level of devastation.

I'm not entirely sure what most people here think it would mean for the US to lose its 'king of the hill' status... do you think everyone will be trying to be more like the Chinese??? That we'll start seeing Chinese flags everywhere? That's pretty unlikely.

So what are you afraid of exactly? The US ends up being the economic equivalent of Canada? That's not so bad, is it?

 

Because China isn't as 'nice' as the US. I mean, the US is pretty terrible, but however bad they've been, China will be worse. I don't trust a country like that to be the most powerful country in the world, imagine them acting like America, invading any country they want, ignoring the UN etc.

Every government cares about money of course, but asian countries in particular run theirs like a business, it's all bottom dollar, chinese people have much less freedom of speech than we do in the west.

 

I think the best thing for the US is to no longer be a superpower.It would actually be best for US citizens if the US concentrated on its own problems.---Its way past time the US stopped throwing money and resources away on the rest of the world.The US has become more of a 'stupid-power'.As far as China being a superpower,well they already are and have been for many years. I actually admire countries like Australia.Australia about the same size,yet 1 tenth the population of the US,strict immigration policies,for the most part they mind their own business and concentrate on their own citizens.The US can learn alot from Australia and other premier nations which do things right.The US used to do many things right ,it no longer does.