Diet Pepsi is the devil

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Enraged Angel, May 2, 2009.

  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    50% phenylalanine, 40% aspartic acid and 10% methanol (wood alcohol).

    But Odon will claim that is all good for you.
     
  2. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    you do know that phenylalanie and aspartic acid are amino acids rights? that are found in many foods right?

    so what does a large protein meal do to your aspartic levels in your bloodstream?

    and why do these anti aspartame people magically hand wave the issue of foods that naturally have methanol in them - why aren't those bad for you?
     
  3. Kinky Ramona

    Kinky Ramona Back by popular demand!

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    I'm anti-aspartame because it makes me sick. The stuff I've read about it just adds to it.
     
  4. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    this has no relevance to anyone else until you actually do a blind test
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    You don't know what you're talking about. Aspartame is a synthetic chemical made in a laboratory. Just because it shares some of the same amino acids that are found in foods, does not mean it is safe. You have to consider the way the amino acids are bonded together with the methanol, and how that breaks down in the body. You also have to factor in the amount as well. High levels of the amino acids that make up aspartame have been found to cause brain damage. To say that because the aspartame shares some of the same propeties as food, it must automatically be safe, is simply absurd.

    Many people get very sick when they consume aspartame. How many people get sick after eating a high protein meal?
     
  6. AlsationInRussia

    AlsationInRussia Banned

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    You appear to have little fists, there, rambleOn. How old are you? Somehow I don't think you're old enough to be on here.
     
  7. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    It is you who have no clue what you're talking about Rat

    explain to me how two bonded amino acids
    1: get through the gut intact
    2: get through the blood brain barrier intact

    and then you can explain why these studies use direct brain injections of these compounds?

    because we all know, direct brain injections has a ton of relevance to our life :rolleyes:
     
  8. AlsationInRussia

    AlsationInRussia Banned

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    The devil exists on all platforms of life, and who's to say where he is now?
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I am not a chemist, and neither are you, so I am not going to pretend that I have an answer to everything. All I know is that aspartame is dangerous, it makes people sick, it is an excitotoxin, it has been found to cause cancer, and studies have documented its adverse effects on the body. A lot of this information is based on the findings of some very prominent scientists and doctors, neither of which you happen to be.



     
  10. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    This is a personal attack. It is not permitted here. Consider this your warning.
     
  11. AlsationInRussia

    AlsationInRussia Banned

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    All the unnatural drugs of the mind, kill the mind.
     
  12. AlsationInRussia

    AlsationInRussia Banned

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    I made a comment about the size of the person's fists, and you consider that a 'threat'?
     
  13. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Playing dumb doesn't give you a mulligan this time pal.
     
  14. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    i asked very basic questions Rat.

    these very basic questions invoke thought on how these studies are conducted and the relevance to daily life for humans. these "studies" that show cancer in rats from direct brain injections has little to no relevance to us. directly injecting large amounts of this compound into the brain is a lot different than consuming it through food sources where it has to go through the gut and then the BBB. its very different. if you peoople can't see that and can't understand why you can't extrapolate these findings from direct brain injections or even better, case studies, then there is no more reason to discuss because of the lack of basic knowledge of how the body operates.
     
  15. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Thank You for the kind words.​

    Now for some not so kind words...take it with the honest intent it is given:​

    I fear you are not at all self aware.
    Don't we all filter information and produce what best supports our argument? So, don't lose respect for me for doing the same thing you and most other people do. If you claim you do not do the same thing... you would have produced the same kind of information I did, about Aspartame.
    You did not, though. You claimed it was a poison. Which it just might be if you had vast quantities of it. But studies suggest in smaller doses it is perfectly fine. You can dig out any info you like about its ill effects...but, I think it is more your prejudice showing. The only reason I put up with your outlandish claims is because - I hope - you have some kind of soul.
    You have also become a human being with feelings, to me.
    Unlike some of the other people of your ilk around here.​


    I did not say he was wrong.
    I merely made a fairly harmless joke that what he said seemed to have come from a CT - YOU. It was just a joke.
    I did ask for some further reading...which I eventually found myself.
    It seems he was correct. I moved on. ​

    I already have. Go look more closely at my previous post. ​

    Erm, why post a picture of DR as a response to the question, then?
    Burying who actually did approve it in the finer print.​

    I think you are taking decades old research and controversy and making out it actually has some relevance in 2009.
    Are you disputing research that was done a few years ago with research that was done over THREE decades ago? Surely not!​


    I think you have a hard time with the truth, Matt.
    I think you don't see the wood for the trees.
    Rather brushing a lot of things aside with cliches such as:
    Official, corporate-sponsored government sources.
    As a response to research that isn't any of the above.
    Heck, it is a dismisal of of any information you do not like the look of, it seems.
    I have no idea why you act in the way you do.
    I hope to god it is not all some big act - ego driven.
    I lose respect for YOU when you can't even see simple falllacies and can't understand what people have said and not said.
    You think I was disagreeing with Carl? Wrong.
    You think I need to do some more research about what he said? I did.
    I posted the entire web of information about it - for pitys sake.
    Sorry, but, wake up, man. ​


    Obviously nothing is 100% with out affect to the human body.
    Ofcourse people will be affected by certain chemicals.
    It is the broader spectrum of people and the wider studies that show it is safe - in small doses.
    Highlighting a few cases of peoples adverse reaction, and assuming this covers all of humanity, is unfair and just plain wrong.​


    I will. Thank You​
     
  16. Enraged Angel

    Enraged Angel Banned

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    So, just from personal experiance... I haven't touched a drop of soda for two days, and I physically feel much better, the 'bloated feeling' has went away... and I would have to say it is due to the fact I have stopped drinking that shit... I've done nothing different other then drinking water and tea instead.
     

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