i see reality as progressive, not cyclical. i don't see why i can't find oneness in duality? there are infinite paradigms which all expose the same fundamental truths. really, all that this writing and elaboration has done has created more distinction and chaos. all that writing about the unwritable can do is create more confusion. the journey to enlightenment is an inner and personal journey that is unique to every single sentient being. knowledge cannot be gifted, it must be uncovered for oneself.
Yeah I think neo is right, it's also why I tend to be drawn towards addressing your posts. I hear myself in them, but it's a version of me that didn't get it (as relative to my perception of me now, in which i for sure think i definetely "get it" more), so I keep trying to explain that you need to take one step back and realize that the two things you think are in battle are actually one great entity which is at peace. I also agree completely that truth is totally subjective and outside language, and these forums games we play are only that to me neo, regarding liquor, i see it like this. my dog is sacred, and a temple is sacred. But I don't bring my dog with me when i go to temple. I will never understand why, or how people drink on lsd or even how people come to every psychedelic experience absolutely stoned out of their mind and even worse, with the attitude that this is the prefered or normal way to do it, and that it helps. It's a like a dude told me once, "When I'm on acid I smoke and drink as much as possible to take the edge off". The whole point is the edge; going to it, seeing it, leaping off, all while in a pristine state of mind, the one you were born in, the one youll probably die in, the one you spend most of your waking life in. Do you want your knowledge to be about your world under the aegis of THC or alcohol, or about your world as it is most of the time? brushing your teeth, driving to work, having a fight with someone you love over the phone, giving your cat food, all that every day stuff, that's where the gold is. It's like putting on 3d glasses before pressing the 'knowledge' button from god . . . the presentation does not require the glasses, why use them?
it's more like sunglasses actually... god is just too bright for some people so they have to wear sunglasses for a little while until they adjust.
I wish there was some sort of advice I could give that wouldn't just add to the illusion Keep shaking the bars man, they're coming loose
i guess what i was having trouble with was the fact that at first this new revalation seemed so incredible and beautifully perfect. but the fact of the matter is that it isn't, it is actually just mundane. it's hard accepting something that is so extraordinary, heavenly, exceptional, and unconcievable as actually being mundane. i'm getting there though, one can't just instantly expect to reach these points. time is like a nurturing womb in which we can heal and come to grips with things. there's nothing you can see that can't be shown. but really what i find interesting is that the implications of this trip are just endless. the trip represents a major philosophical shift in my thinking. i am just not quite sure what means what anymore -- or if it even matters. i'm beginning to think that it doesn't. it's all just beautiful really.
:cheers2:.....My English teacher described it as a "Terrible Beauty"...I thought that expression nailed it, although its not that terrible...I dont know iam just in love with life
man desos you are going through exactly what i was after 5 hits. it took me many many months to work through those things and i finally feel like i've come out the other end understanding them. have patience and know that the night may get darker before the sun rises. it will 'click' one day and you'll have an "Oh!" moment so profound that it will be on par with a 5 second window into an acid peak. It took many such moments for me to get out of the 'problem'.
even though i kind of feel like i have this 'problem' i also feel like i am complete. it's not necesarily a night. more like there were a million suns shining down on me before and now a few of the suns aren't there anymore. it's still very, very bright. the problem isn't the problem at all. the problem is the perception of the problem. but really the problem is with the perception of the problem of the perception of the problem. the problem is the problem. problem problem problem problem. lmao. :biggrin: i think you just have to surrender to the fact that there is a problem. facts are facts, and cannot be changed.
haha, yea really. we try to find meaning in things because of some deep primal desire, when really there is no meaning. but what it did provide is a medium for which to experience enlightenment.
Yeah, but maybe there is a meaning to it all after all. As in, if evolution didn't progress as it did and we didn't end up as we are (the highest evolved species, thus the most self-aware, and most capable of acheiving Christ Consciousness), how would the universe know itself? I do think some things have meanings. Just strange, peculiar things. Like for instance, I have taken it upon myself to consume as much psychedelic drugs as possible, for the good of the universe and for the genetic evolution and general advancement of our species as a whole. which is essentially me working to return the universe back to it's original state, which is complete universal consciousness and the realization of oneness of all beings, that which is evolutions ultimate goal. And who gives a good god damn what johnny law says :cheers2:
well you could call a medium for enlightenment meaning. i guess what i was saying is that the meaning isn't exactly obvious or well known. alot of people spend their whole lives clinging to meaning when really the meaning is found in letting go. i think that what i was going through was that i was freaking out because i was losing the gift of love i had been given. but then i calmed down when i realised that love doesn't need reaffirmation, it shines on regardless.