tripping help

So heres the deal, I have had 5 acid trips, 1 mush trip, 20 salvia trips, and 2 dpt trips.


What saddens me is that only 1 of all of those trips was what I could call good, but it was in no way 'euphoric'. That was my last acid trip a couple months ago.


But every other trip has mostly been very uncomfortable, and quite dysphoric, I usually come up with a lot of nervousness or anxiety, and it stays because once I start tripping I let everything spook me.


None of my acid trips were scary, but they were not comfortable, I was just too anxious to enjoy them, my thoughts were wrangled, going fast, etc.


My last 2 trips were on DPT, my first dpt trip was a week ago, I did it at night in my room, I started coming up intense and had ego death, but it was really though because I had to let go of everything that made me me, when I thought about anything id see it die, like my girlfriend, and all my visuals consisted of scary looking psychedelic faces, some resembling strange elvish type heads and others resembling the rabbits face from donnie darko. Then my last DPT trip was yesterday, I guess I kind of ruined it by doing it in a park (NOTE TO SELF: DONT PEAK ON DPT AT A PUBLIC PARK WITH LOTS OF PEOPLE LOL) but yeah, everything gets so fucking wierd it scares me, I really really love psychedelics, the culture, the people, the concepts, the weed, and the whole unity shit, but that last trip just wasnt enjoyable at all, I saw fractalizing skulls melting into everything, the trees all had ancient looking faces in them staring at me, my girlfriends face wobbles so much it scared me cause she looked very foreign, everything was so strange, sounds echoed like they were in a room and sounded all jumbled, when I was watching knocked up, seth rogans eye stretched all over his face and it looked scary.


How can I learn to improve my trips and make them more euphoric and happy? Its like right when I realize im tripping I just get lots of bad images in my head, it doesnt make me ever panic or freak out, but it just makes it so uncomfortable that I just stare at the clock waiting for it to end =/


Halp? Will I just learn more through more experience? Cause thats what ive thought is once ive stabilized my tripping mind and learned to control it better ill start having many good trips




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oh heres the fucked up part, all my salvia trips were great, they werent euphoric but they were not uncomfortable at all, I actually have learned more about myself and felt more happy about life after salvia trips than any other trip! wtf! lol.

 

Okay you're gonna get a lot of mixed responses but I think the most important thing is to completely let go of the physical world. When you try to use physical senses in a spiritual world (lol sounds corny but stay with me), it's confusing and scary.

Try thinking about "WHY" things you think are scary are scary to you beforehand until you have no doubt that you will have a good trip.

Death used to scare me, until I realized that it's the same exact thing as before you were born and nobody agonizes over the thought of before you were born..

And overall, set and setting. Everyone stresses this so some overlook it -- it's important man. No peaking at crowded parks talking to strange old men. lol Go into it feeling relaxed and be in a relaxing setting.


Happy trails!

 

aahahaha right on about the last part, but really its no so much the death that scares me but really the imagery, my last trip had the imagery of skulls and stuff, like not just skulls but I mean skulls with an evil sort of look glaring at me... its kind of like... what would you rather see in your trip, glaring evil skulls or flowers lol.


That was my last trip though on dpt, all previous trips on other substances didnt have scary imagery so much as the body high was just unpleasant.

 

Your shit is sdrawkcab ssa... Salvia makes me want to jump out of a flying pink elephant anus. Acid makes me feel totally content and happy. I feel more at peace with the world.

What carlos said is good. Most people are going to say about the same thing but in different ways. Basic message is that you have to let go. get comfy where you are even if its weird or scary. If you see scary uncomfortable skulls then think 'wait a second, those are not real at all, they can't even exsist. I think they look cool though. They are pretty. I wonder what other stuff looks weird/pretty/ugly. Look at that dog!! Holy shit! his face is freaking me out.' But you know he is just a doggie dog. Then look for cats... you get the point? It is impossile for someone to walk you through. You just need the right vibes. A park is a horrible idea for a new substance.

Were you around someone you feel TOTALLY comfortable with? Did you do it by yourself? (also not good unless you got a little more xp and HP.) Set and setting!!!

this has to be my most awesome post...

 

BTW alot of the drug is in your mind. You need to be in a comfy mood to have a comfy trip. Kind of goes with what I was trying to say earlier if you could understand that mess...

I am coming off of a 24 hour shift in Iraq. I am not crazy...

 

It is in your mind, but your mind is a physical thing as much as it is anything spiritual. Much more so its a cyclic thing and I don't believe there is any switch in your head to flick, except the decision to stick with a choice...

I guess what I'm saying is there is no guarantee that your trips will be enjoyable because the circumstances you need maybe very narrow, perhaps more narrow as time goes on.

 

Ok I think I kind of get the gyst of what your saying, I guess ill just tell the scary things they can just go suck a cock. lol.

I think though maybe it was just the DPT haha, the past 2 trips from that stuff man blows any other psyche ive tried outta the water...


My next psyche will be 2c-I so maybe phenethyls will treat me better, plus ive heard its much easier to handle.

 

Yeah, 2c-i is supposed to be friendly. But I have to say, I somewhat find it strange that you didn't have a good trip from either lsd nor shrooms. Usually people find at least one of them to be great.

Anyway, I myself got some 2c-e, but I find it to be a little too demanding. I'm not ready for it. So I'm gonna score some 2C-B. As long as fun is the name of the game, 2C-B should be better than 2C-I, amirite? Anyone here tried both?

 

A lot of what you described I'm sitting here going "what's scary about that?"

Why is it scary when your girlfriend's face wobbles and she looks foreign? Are you afraid of foreigners?

You're going to see this kind of shit when you trip man. This is what tripping is. The issue is not what you're seeing, that is largely out of your direct control (to change that, you need to change your life), the issue is how you are reacting to what you're seeing.

And obviously you need to pay much better attention to the set/setting side of the coin (the other side of the coin is substance/dosage). Why would you take DPT in public, knowing what it's effects are? Would you take 30 hits of acid at a police conference? I really get the impression you don't take this seriously, the drugs, your trips . . . you don't even want your trips, you want 'new' trips, that are cooler, funner, more of what you imagine a trip to be. It doesn't quite work like that

 

Nah he takes his stuff seriously, but I do agree with you about how he should really question WHY he thinks certain things are scary.

Venturing into new realms can be scary, but WHY should it? Things may look foreign, stuff may morph into skulls -- why are skulls scary? Western culture holds skulls with a negative regard, whereas other cultures make skulls represent celebration of the life before the "skull".

Of course it's not just about the skull, but that's an example for everything. Why must new things be scary? Why must skulls look bad? etc.

 

Alright ive taken the time to read all these, thank you carlos for understanding to, let me clarify a couple things though. Firstly, none of my trips but the DPT trips were actually 'scary', acid and shrooms and the like just had an anxious nervous uncomfortable body buzz.


Also, no im not afraid of foreigners, but that I meant 'alien' just it looks very strange, I guess that wasnt so much scary as it was just really intense, my girlfriend was shpongled hahaha, her head was very akin to the shpongle head so that was what freaked me out lol... (that was my last dpt trip) and also the skulls again from my last dpt trip, its wasnt the skulls that scared me, it was their facial expression, the skulls had a glaring scary facial expression like 'im gonna kill you hehehehe' kind of look. But also, I have had a good trip, it was on acid, and It was beautiful and calm and content, but in no way 'euphoric' like I read a lot of people feel, actually though thinking back my 2nd acid trip, the beginning of it felt like E, the body buzz etc. But that turned into anxiety later on.



I think Ive got a better idea now though, first I think I just need to trip more, im very educated on psychedelics and drugs in general including all the neuroanatomy and shit, but im not a very experienced tripper and I think it was just the last 2 DPT trips I had this past week that pushed me over because they were just too intense for a beginner, so I think I will save the rest of my DPT and come back to it after ive had a few good acid trips/2c-I trips. Set and setting is definitly key, ive noticed when the TV is on is really changes the feeling and makes my thoughts erratic but outside, its calm and peaceful and quiet and I can think.


I do take my psyches seriously though, its never to trip balls, I always want to try and improve myself and my relationships with people (and see some colorful shit haha)


oh and the comment on doing the DPT in a park, the park I go to is actually pretty damn big, its very beautiful and peaceful to be in in the morning when there arent many people, I had a very euphoric 2nd acid trip there, but I guess I dont consider that trip 'great' cause it turned bad when I left, as I left the park during that 2nd acid trip I got anxious and paranoid walking home and the rest of the trip was full of anxiety, but I believe that to be because I tried taking some E when I got home to candy flip but I threw up and learned they were pipes later... =/



Ill just trip more and figure out whats best for me, thanks for the input guys.

 

Thats what tripping is. I suggest taking a higher dose, and having more respect for the chemicals. I do see them as "the flesh of God".

 

Im just not use to it yet, im gonna do less intense psyches, DPT is just too intense for now.

 

I wasnt used to it and I loved it. I did a TINY dose to test for allergic reaction, then I jumped up to a 160mg dose. Had a great time. Take a low dose of acid. Very mild, euphoric, and if you want you can trip out. LSD is very user friendly, and I can turn an extremely light trip into an intense one.

 

Whenever I start to get some uneasy feelings during a trip, I just confront them head-on.

During one of my more powerful trips, I started imagining demons and thinking about some really negative shit. I like to think about demonic shit while I'm tripping, but all of the other negative shit I was thinking about, at the time, started to affect my demonic vibe in a negative way. lol

This was my solution......I actually started to TALK to the trip, itself. I said something like "You wanna make me depressed? I'm ALWAYS depressed. You wanna give me heartache? I already have heartache. You wanna send demons to get me? Motherfucker, I AM a demon, so you can't touch me". haha It worked like a charm. If you lay all of your fears and anxieties on the table and make it clear to yourself that your mind can't hurt you, then all will be gravy You just can't be afraid to go where the drug wants to take you.

 

Haha thanks, I dig that, ill try that next time things get crazy.

 

You never cease to bring lol and inspiration.

 

hahahaha I'm always happy to inspire and share my lulz

 

tns man that's exactly it, you just can't be afraid of anything, you have to approach psychedelics like how men approached boddhidharma to learn zen from him; he would try his hardest to drown them in a river if they kept asking to learn, to make sure they were serious. his best pupil only became that after cutting off his entire right arm in front of him. This is the attitude you must have, you must be a fucking warrior in your heart. This is not the place for little fears or being afraid of the dark. and this all must be genuine, not bullshit ego, because that is actually worse and you will pay dearly for feigning a bold spirit with these substances.

Be prepared to die in your quest for truth, and you just might get some.


imo

 

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